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Signal messages are private, doesn't make them good money

Zach⚡️ 1y ago

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Cash, coins, and precious metals are all private and fungible used for hundreds to thousands of years

Bitcoins unprecedented transparency is the odd one out here

Just zapped you 1 sat. Can you tell me which sat that is?

From a custodial wallet like the vast majority of zaps where a third party sees everything or from your own LN node?If I zap you the 1 sat back do you have receiver privacy?

If we ignore everything above, do you hold your entire stack on lightning?

https://zapalytics.com/

Zaps arent private, kinda the whole point...

Still entirely fungible. Or if not send me back that specific sat

I mean you can zap a note anonymously or without Nostr network knowing at all

I actually do think lightning is more fungible than on-chain Bitcoin

A zap is a lightning payment that includes a nostr event. Remove nostr and it's just a lightning payment.

Is a dollar bill fungible?

LibertyImp 1y ago

No a dollar bill isn't fungible, serial numbers can change the value of them.

Ok so y'all just don't know what fungible means. Got it.

LibertyImp 1y ago

Who is the y'all you are talking to? I'm 1 person.

Probably comparable to dollar bills yea. I was never arguing zaps aren't fungible or more fungible than on chain. I shouldve been clear my original reply was about on chain Bitcoin. I do think privacy issues hurt fungibility to a certain degree depending on magnitude of the issue - like Moneros sender privacy w/ ringsigs or LN receiver privacy i.e. the way dollar bills can be tracked in a broad sense by serial number, but you never know the "full history" of any particular bill.

I know users say lightning and on-chain are both Bitcoin, and it is, but I don't think that is true in practice i.e. UX, security, trade-offs etc. it functions as it's own thing with different properties VS on chain Bitcoin.

shinohai 1y ago

Yes it is one of 2.1e+15. Doxxed.

How many coins are in circulation? Max supply ?

What’s the inflation rate on it ?

CEO Riccardo is an honest guy? How do you can trust him?

Can you verify all thing on monero ? No ; so it is shitcoin

Whatever: apply the same questions to all seven people;

Fine you win. Monero will trend to zero. Goodbye.

That’s right 👍

Go to check graph XMR/BTC and convince yourself that’s shitcoin is going to zero against BTC

it has been...

that isn't a bitcoin/xmr chart...

also, what is that awful source? nobody saw coming?? literally ever time bitcoin pumps, other coins do as well.

I'll save you the time, and don't care to argue. it is fine for privacy and fantastic for many needed situations, but a store of value against bitcoin isn't one of them. let's not pretend it is.

So? Store your value in BTC. Spend Monero.

It dips? Loses value? I'll buy that dip just like I have for BTC.

It's a personal choice.

That's fine. Have a blast. Just showing facts of what is happening.

I have no monero beef. Or users of it

Then why join the conversation? You put in no value.

I corrected your false statement about monero not trending to zero against bitcoin. You are welcome.

I wouldn't want you to keep spreading false info now that you know it isn't true. 👊

Har.

I doubt it. Monero will always hold value for those who choose privacy currency over something state captured.

NGU? Fiat mentality.

Except it hasn't and doesn't. So I have no idea what you are talking about.

Have a good day.