Replying to p2pwins

Keet can't go down tho? Do you understand how it works? It's P2P, if you have the app it works, it has no servers

If you have the install file you can install it and it works, again no servers

If you join a room and use it you make another copy of it, you can give that copy to anyone

How are you imagining Keet stops working or goes down?
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Garbage nsec 4mo ago

Holepunch Inc, the company, ceases to exist, or pulls the app from the stores.

For 99% of iOS users, that is effectively the end of their holepunch expereince. They cannot invite friends (who also not tech savvy) to install and join them for a chat, and if they lose their local copy of the app (get a new phone, etc.) that's the end of their own connection too.

Yes 1% might compile from code and install via their own personal testflight or whatever, but when talking about general adoption of decentralised tools there is no sense talking bout that 1%. Most people don't even know what the word "key" means, let's not forget.

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p2pwins 3mo ago

iOS is a stawman argument, it's a small platform with limitations, where as the other platforms can keep installing if holepunch disappear

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Garbage nsec 3mo ago

The vast majority of normies (or semi-normies, seeing as normies aren't there yet) using Holepunch are using Keet on iOS.

I myself am not interested in protocols that normies will never care about. Sure some tiny number of developers can do whatever they want with some open source code they pulled from Github before a repo went down. But that's of very little interest to me, it's essentially little more than an open hackathon.

Developers are fond of saying "you can just do this" and "you can just do that" but we all know that normies will never ever "just do" these things.