This assumes everyone is Kanye. The vast majority of people who do delete a post on X, their posts were never screenshotted, often never even read. Perhaps they just felt embarrassed after a few minutes of cooling down, or noticed a grammar error, or wanted to rephrase things. And even for posts that have been up for a while, often it's just them tidying up, and again, nobody will have cared to screenshot those posts before they deleted them.
The Japanese-speaking community on nostr is the best community here, they don't talk about the same boring stuff as the english-speaking community.
But I was responding to the note in English about the petition. They are not going to be reading that note (well I'm guessing most aren't). I think they stick to themselves pretty much. Power to them.
Well yeah. I'd say this methodology filters out a lot of the bots, but certainly not all. If you account for remaining bots, and remove Japanese and other more isolated groups, this is a very small bubble.
Jack invested like in late 2022 so 3 years ago, and I think that was when nostr was 2 years old already and had indie traction.
Pablo could get a lot of money for the highlighter.com domain, he should sell that and pull a MySpace Tom.
To be fair, there are a lot of good ideas in nostr, I think in the end the basic signed-event concept will spread. This kind1 bubble-world is kinda dying though.
To shir shit up and pass the time while I wait for stuff to render.
Nobody stirs shit up here, it's all LFG and GM, very boring.
Someone's gotta make an effort.
Time preference in context of sustained negative growth is meaningless.
Nostr is fading, numbers are at their lowest in 3 or 4 years, and continue to steadily decline. Unless something changes, increase the "time preference" and the numbers just go down even further, nostr just fades out even more.
Yes but nostr is fading over time. User numbers are at their lowest in 3.5 years, content is getting sparser and sparser.
The long-term project thesis only works if numbers are going up, even gradually. If numbers are going down then if you extend the term they just go down further!
Makes sense. There are so few people here. You could literally fit the whole daily-active English-speaking Kind1 community into a church. And if it was one of those mega-churches then you'd still have lots of empty seats.
I agree in general. Orwell I would say seemed a pretty decent guy as far as it goes, and I've no problem with forgiving people for saying stupid things, I agree with you we need much more of that.
But there is a line. Has to be. Timothy C. May was just completely bonkers unhinged, and Chomsky, being fully aware of the underage girls, I mean come on.
Not saying dismiss their ideas. Just find other, better people who have articulated the same ideas and go with their articulation instead.
Yeah everyone's got skeletons, but you can kinda intuit who is really terrible behind closed doors and who is just minimally terrible.
Such a thing as foresight too.
Many a trader has used a little bit of it to do better than stubborn holders.
Some people say you should treat the ideas as having emerged from some platonic space and it doesn't matter who went into that space and plucked them out, you should judge the ideas on their merit alone.
I think the opposite, Timothy C May and Noam Chomsky both sound like total douchebags in real life, I'm happy to ignore anything they've said based solely on the fact that they seem like total douchebags. Other people who don't seem to be total douchebags have put the same general ideas in other words, I'm happy to take their phrasing instead.
"Jeffery Epstein, my friend, you are the man!"
― also Noam Chomsky
I don't understand this loyalty to just one thing.
If you sold your bitcoin earlier in the year, bought silver, and then the other day sold your silver and bought back bitcoin then now you've got much MORE BITCOIN than if you'd just held.
Same as if you had 100 bitcoin ten years ago, sold them all and bought ETH, then today, ten years later, sold your ETH and bought back bitcoin, you'd have MORE (lots, lots more).
Trading is the way.
Ideologically-driven bear-hugging of any one instrument is just silly.
Encrypted messaging only works if it survives failure. That’s the flaw nostr:nprofile1qyv8wumn8ghj7enfd36x2u3wdehhxarj9emkjmn99uq3jamnwvaz7tmswfjk66t4d5h8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpqzuuajd7u3sx8xu92yav9jwxpr839cs0kc3q6t56vd5u9q033xmhsfce088 points to in even the best centralized tools: one company, one infrastructure, one outage away from silence.
nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3wamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet59uqzqawhxlp5wfr3q2wyfpmtxvxj9ppg3fp80x6erghdfk4pcmq8a7hhwp9puf uses Nostr and novel cryptography to remove the server as a choke point. If one relay fails, you move on. Secure communication shouldn’t depend on permission or uptime from anyone else.
Watch full episode on nostr:nprofile1qy28wumn8ghj7mtfwdekkete9ejx2umfvahqzrthwden5te0dehhxtnvdakqqgxup0q7qdfxz7mm6rm4dpr06y80lrtg22nut2n7zyacr8mp05lc3u69jf2l & zap ahead! 😉
https://blossom.primal.net/ee71f6689996b4bd7116b8223e541a642a95c51d37a770d2439e6dc7fdc493fc.mp4
It's so utterly fragile though.
Feels like 3 or 4 years of hardening is needed.
I'm glad I'm not a bot. Seriously though, it's raw physics when you break it down.
I’ve heard a lot of this “in theory nostr will scale horizontally forever” but, having worked in gaming with hundreds of thousands of concurrents this is the equivalent of “in theory if all the cars start moving right when the light turns green then there won’t be a delay for the cars further back”. Yeah in theory that's true.
Put another way, relying on “naturally occurring” load balancing is about as ambitious as doing away with airplane tickets and just having everyone come to the airport to try to board planes like they’re public busses.
Relays will only scale horizontally in mythical-world conditions that will never happen in the actual world. This is a mythical world where everyone and their sister is running a relay (an impossible relay:user ratio), where everyone adds just the right combination of relays so when one is maxed out vertically it falls back to another that isn’t maxed out (and that isn’t everyone else’s fallback), where high-horsepower relays (whatever distributed SQL monsters) just happen to be scattered around to just the very right places, where nothing on nostr requires ultra-low latency (waiting for the straggler relays), where no one single person has a reason to subscribe to events from more than a couple hundred others, and so on.
And that's just the relays, when you get to the blossom servers, CDNs, etc., and then the interplay between the relay side and the media side, it's just blood out of both nostrils.
If you've scaled anything then you can see from a mile away that nostr will not scale. You need centrally-orchestrated load balancing and a hundred other things akin to a human central nervous system.
Hot take: inflation doesn't really mean anything.
50 years ago, if you wanted the following:
-1 flight Los Angelus to New York
-1 basic television
-100 large pizzas
-100 litres of coke
You'd have had to work twice as many hours as today. That's certainly not inflation in terms of hours worked. But you could easily make a list of things for which you'd have worked far fewer hours for 50 years ago.
It depends what you value. If you just want to live in a van, watch TV, eat pizza drink coke and fly around the country then you haven't been affected by inflation at all, quite the opposite. But if you want a house in a trendy part of the city then you have been affected a lot.
Inflation only means something in context of hours worked and personal priorities.
Many things like that here. Look here, where nostr belatedly discovers ngrok.
In short, this NWS thing was where a so-called “entry node" captures some web traffic, wraps it into an encrypted Nostr event which is then sent to a relay that holds it until an “exit node” fetches it, decrypts the event, sends it to the local web server, and then sends the response back through the relay the same way.
It, err, didn't take off.
So many things like this.
There is nothing special in nostr relays is the exact problem. You need something special to scale.
Relays physically cannot scale vertically, even strfry, which I'll be the first agree is tight c++ code, will max out before it supports anything at scale just due to write limits. You'll always hit a write wall on the database, and no code will remove that wall for you.
Relays cannot scale horizontally either (to millions) due to coordination issues, latency issues (especially tail latency), the backplane limit, state bloat quicksand, and also just vertical maxing out of individual relays in the horizontal plane. Again no code will fix this, you're bumping up against hardware and the laws of physics.
"It's all in your head" describes all money, ever. Including fiat, crypto and gold in this sitting in a vault sense.
The idea that you can have some form of money that is somehow "more rational" ignores what money actually is.
I think honestly nostr is fading away. I suspect most people here can feel that. The numbers certainly reflect it.
But it shows how a free-floating singed-event based architecture can work, so that's a win.
So quiet these days. This is literally the highest trending post on Nostr this hour and it has zero replies.
nostr has been losing users for quite some time now.
going by that, roads are leading from nostr to outside, not from outside to nostr.
Cold start problem. People do not post content to where their audience is not. Why would they? Content follows audience, not the other way around.
Well yeah, that's also an issue. It's also possible that shor's is realized sooner than we're predicting, and announced suddenly, so before Bitcoin can propagate whatever is selected in the end, and that is the end of Bitcoin more or less, not just nostr. (There is currently a race condition between bitcoin core and a quantum machine that can realise shor's.)
I'm optimistic that a Nostr 2.0 will come out and be much better than this one, but a complete from-scratch do-over.
I'm not optimistic that Nostr 1.0 can be "patched" by just swapping out keys. Every dev here has a sacred list of hard-fork-requiring things that, if there is going to be a hard fork for quantum or whatever else, then those things MUST also be in the hard fork. In other words the next fork might be the only hard fork to ever occurs and those hard-fork requiring things will just have to be in it, now or never.
First, because it’s not a migration in the Bitcoin core sense, or the Signal sense, etc. In nostr the vulnerable key is the absolute end of the line, last station on the subway. Second because a hard fork requires consensus and there is no way to achieve consensus here on something like “just” swapping out the keys, that would require consensus on everything about the hard fork from everyone who is to be a lead participant in it, and in a highly organic and unstructured way, which is the only way nostr has. Which, if you think about it, means starting again from scratch.
It wouldn't work. You in theory ditch secp256k and start over with Crystals or similar (hello 2.5kb signatures). But on Nostr it makes no sense to hard fork and just change the key type, since there are other unresolved technical problems, you'd want to kill as many birds with one stone as you can.
It'd basically be an entirely new protocol. This one written off.
The problem is that it has to be done. I mean it would be quite a feat of engineering if within 3 years there was a quantum computer that can crack secp256k via shor's, in the 2k-6k logical qbit range. But the thing is it's entirely possible, given how AI is supercharging error correction and new advances in qbit types and noise reduction. So if being serious about security you have to assume it will happen in 5 years, and you definitely have to assume it will happen in 10.
Signal started their fix a couple years ago and are basically done, so things like White Noise can be reworked to remove nostr (as we know it now) as the transport layer. But for nostr itself there is zero scope for migration, it's the end of the line.
In a browser context that's just inspection theatre though, more comfort than any semblance of certainty.
Nostr still requires a hard fork though, because of quantum resistance. As it stands now scep256k1 is always the weakest link in the chain, and scep256k1 cannot be a foundation for anything in 2025..
Yes. Open-source code is meaningless in context of web apps, be it loading in iframes or anywhere else. It's never anything more than "I promise that this is the code that is loading there at this time".
It’s like trying to play Counter-Strike over nostr and every time you shoot you have to send a kind 999 shoot event.
Yup, certified not crazy.
That said, I think Cashu is a good way of casino-chip-ifying pretty much anything, if that’s the functionality you’re after. Casino chips are useful—if you're in a casino. (Imagine placing crumpled up dollar bills on every number you want to cover on the roulette wheel.)
As long as you're honest that these casino chips are indeed casino chips. Key caveat.
The more we can optimise custodial lightning for latency and UX the more I wonder if Cashu is really needed in the loop.
Pays to remember that someone who has never heard of a key pair before could well need several hours of research to genuinely understand the concept of a private key and a public key and a signature.
And maybe several days, because many will have to circle back to grab a bunch of underlying concepts in math and computation that they don't have pre-packed.
And maybe years—as in they need to catch up on years of missing context before they have the educational foundation to genuinely (key word) grasp what a key pair is and does.
If you go through nStart and other "normie-friendly" onboarding tools, these tools make some ridiculous assumptions about what the average normie has cognitively pre-loaded.