I'm just a stupid guy but wouldn’t tariffs just make goods more expensive for the MAGA flock?

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Tariffs are always paid by the consumer in some way. Either reduced quality or higher prices.

That’s the simple view. But the US has hollowed out its industrial and manufacturing base by sending it overseas. At what point do taxes and money printing go so high to account for lost industry that we can’t buy anything anymore because no one has a job?

30% of the economy is financial, which means money printing and money gaming. This is nonproductive.

So we are in a situation where the printing press now has to account for $2 trillion a year in deficit spending.

Historically, the system where living in has collapsed 100% of the time and the people that suffer are the ones that got cheap goods for a few decades.

The money printer is what did all that damage to the US and the UK (where I am). Tariffs won't fix that. As long as money (the yard stick by which all is measured) is broken everything else will be broken. Tariffs are at best a sticking plaster.

The other “flock” was better?

No, no one is better per se. I’m just talking about the special “I support you regardless of what you do” type that seems to be very popular within the MAGA guys.

ur talking about tilting at windmills.

leave the strawmen alone

ur talking about tilting at windmills.

leave the strawmen alone

sorry, replied to wrong msg

when people stop buying Rao’s and grab the non tarrif’ed Prego, that isn’t hurting the customer financially.

it limits their selection sure, but the bottom line is it hurts Rao’s.

it’s simply false to say the customer loses quality or pays a higher price. Rao’s is a higher price and the customer still have a choice.

Not all sauce is getting tarrif’d

Exactly. Tariffs mainly hurt the foreign importers/producers, because their product now loses competitive edge against other products that are not tariffed/produced domestically. Also this increases political pressure in the country of origin because their producers may demand subsidies from their governments with the pretend they may end up in bankruptcy. The governments often caves in for subsidies and increased deficits because they fear recession and increased unemployment more than anything (it’s not good for the ratings).

It'll make goods more expensive for everyone unless people decide to start buying the more competitively-priced American-made versions of what they were used to (assuming those cheaper versions even exist in the first place). If we import some version of the good from another country that isn't tariffed, that would also theoretically become more appealing. I guess it's all relative based on the import costs of each type of good.