Replying to Avatar Guy Swann

I don’t see anything here for immunity from committing crime. In fact what he lost over sounds ridiculous to me.

It says that he has immunity from having “spoken to Mike Pence leading up to January 6th.” But that his charge of “trying to overturn the election results” will not be dismissed… which also seems ridiculous. He didn’t try to overturn the election results, he claimed there was fraud (which there is certainly reason to suspect) and tried to begin an investigation. Which if there was fraud is exactly what any sensible person would want would it not?

“Congress may not criminalize the president's conduct in carrying out the responsibilities of the executive branch under the Constitution." I mean this actually makes sense, imo. Where does it suggest that a president can commit a crime and get immunity?

If we’re actually going to be concerned about that, we should start with starting dozens of wars without any declaration or congressional vote; murdering hundreds of thousands of people extra legally; funding genocide of other countries with tax payer dollars; committing a plethora of war crimes; direct corruption; insider trading; and the long, long list of shit that every president does and nobody even begins to care about. But I’m supposed to care, not that Trump and every other president *committed war crimes,* but that he tried to investigate election fraud in an election system that seems to be clearly bullshit and rife with fraud?

Am I missing something here? 🤨

Who knows what this may change in reality. I think, even under official duties, George bush, Dick Cheney, and most of his cabinet and officials belong in prison and should’ve been tried.

I see your points…I still think it’s a slippery slope of defining what’s official and not is my main point.

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Agree they should all be in prison, but I don’t see any attempt to excuse something for him here, to the contrary I see them trying to criminalize something obviously *not* criminal because he refused to go along with possible establishment fraud, while letting everyone else *literally* get away with murder.

It seems like the most insane case of selective punishment I could conjure up. They could actually get him for crimes, but they are prosecuting him for the one thing that is NOT a crime, because i think they don’t want to set a precedent that might actually mean presidents and corrupt officials could be prosecuted for the horrible shit they do during “business as usual.” 🤷🏻‍♂️