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> He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

> He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn [over] all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

[Colossians 1:13-17](https://romans+12:10/), ESV

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Lea 1y ago

"''GOD' THIS DUDE DOESN'T STOP!"

Deleted Account 1y ago

No go back to Genesis & read it again ….

Him? 🤣🤣🤣

freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 1y ago

...you mean like [Genesis 3:15](https://www.esv.org/Genesis+3/)?

Yes, Him.

Deleted Account 1y ago

You’re currently using an English Standard Version? Right?

freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 1y ago

Reads pretty much the same in all the English translations.

https://biblehub.com/genesis/3-15.htm

Deleted Account 1y ago

Correct

Now when and where was the original Bible written?

freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 1y ago

...you want a single date and location for all 66 books, from ~40 authors, in at least 4 languages, across the Ancient Near East, written over a ~4000 year period?

Deleted Account 1y ago

Read that .. it’s in ESV … what does it say?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/2aadfb8ac7d43aca6d164ed99248147910048269601ff60d4463c4d5b3abfdcd/8163a95eb4af80402039a97b100073b8c40cf42484aae186091f3be93c4a20ed.webp

freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 1y ago

The same thing that it says in John 1 and Colossians 1 and a few other places.

Perhaps what you're after is a refresher on what the whole counsel of God teaches--and what Christians of all ages and all stripes have long confessed--regarding the full divinity of the man, Jesus the Christ, eternal Son of God incarnate:

https://heidelblog.net/athanasian/

Deleted Account 1y ago

No … I don’t need a refresher 🤣🤣🤣

I highlighted two versus in the version you’re reading to start a discussion.

You deflected.

To make it easier. The light. 💡

Are they one being?

freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 1y ago

I answered you, and in doing so, answered the 'one being' question as well.

You don't affirm the ecumenical creeds? Because--and forgive me if I'm wrong--but you seem to be heading somewhere that John 1 would prohibit.

Deleted Account 1y ago

You didn’t answer a basic question I asked you about light 💡

You’re assuming a question I haven’t asked.

Ecumenical creeds we haven’t even gotten too as this is a question about light.

Now you jump straight to NEW TESTAMENT

Cool. 😎

You didn’t. You think you did but you didn’t.

Go in peace 🕊️

freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 1y ago

--as I suspected, you were on the way to saying that Jesus is the first thing created (light) and not the Creator himself. That's why I responded the way I did. That is not the teaching of Scripture (hence my quotation of John 1 and Col 1), as the church has always confessed.

Scripture is many books, but it is also one book; it has many authors, yet it has one Author. To pit (say, NT) scripture against (say, OT) scripture is to pit its Divine Author against himself.

I stand with Athanasius on this question, CONTRA MUNDUM, as it were.

Deleted Account 1y ago

Wrong again 🤣🤣🤣

Nice try

I asked about light 💡

You assumed wrongly.

Again I say … go in #PEACE

lead with #LOVE

Constantly question the Bible and seek answers. 🥰🫂💡

Deleted Account 1y ago

Genuinely, I’ve studied the Bible in multiple different editions since Childhood

I know Bible History

If you don’t want to converse with me, that’s fine. We all come to path

freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 1y ago

As have I. 🤙

Deleted Account 1y ago

Well then this should be a good discussion. I’ll stick with English versions for now 🥳