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Nice tunes! I can actually relate to that description for "devoid of energy". For me the shoegaze/ambient and doom/sludge metal realms are two sides of the same coin. Slow and pensive - one creates atmospheres of floating in space with glassy tones and delays while the other creates thick and oppressive atmospheres that actually feel like treading in sludge through slow, low rhythmic chugging. Rather than hype me up, I get more trance like emotions - the latter which actually feeling needing to build up strength to push forward through sludge despite the oppressive atmosphere. Its fun 😁

Dissident Sound 2y ago

i was first exposed to Doom through "Restless Oblivion" by Anathema all the way back in the 90s as a kid in Kiev:

https://youtu.be/OR36lGQB0Vo?si=tU70JlmtDXPLU-dy

i couldn't get into any of their other stuff, but got into "Paradise Lost" instead, big time:

https://youtu.be/rKUOxMk4I-s?si=Q5qeW_CZiJTNnt2Z

which probably isn't Doom by your standards, but that's as close as i got ...

actually it was a software engineer who tried to get me to listen to Doom at the time ( i was 14 and listening to Death Metal then )

apparently there is a link between Doom and software engineering i wasn't aware of ...

anyway, eventually i transitioned away from metal-based music forms and towards electronic sound ...

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liminal 🦠 2y ago

If this is doom, then I'm not sure if I'm calling it right, but they're just labels to me - just something that approximates a sound.

Two bands that I use are more "post metal" but the vibes of these songs seem more doomy and sludgy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUf9_1jsCyY

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But in general, I'm just a fan of musicianship. My steps into heaviness come and go, but the appreciation of musicianship always stays the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqJGwxYwmIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGnXVMrkA58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVlwqflKUfY

Only until recently have I started appreciating electronic music.

Dissident Sound 2y ago

this "Gnosis" stuff, immediately reminded me of "When a Champion Falls" by Animadrop.

https://youtu.be/EwrcxB8HQ_0?si=aC7eoN3WnDGp0Zdl

and not in a good way LOL. they both have this quality of simultaneously being too serious while also not original enough.

objectively there is nothing wrong with them, but they just kind of lack authenticity that i like to see in music.

basically they start out with the goal of impressing the listener and this is wrong. you have to start out with something unique and then do enough to make sure it is "finished" but not "belabored" ...

basically it should sound natural and effortless and it doesn't. it sounds painstakingly orchestrated. in case of Animadrop he isn't even trying to hide it by showing how he composed it in the computer.

i will try to think of an example of this done better, but i can't think of one right now.

Dissident Sound 2y ago

couldn't think of any examples of it done right but here is another example of it done wrong:

Seven Lions feat. So Below - Every Time (Official Music Video)

https://youtu.be/0u-wOk8kCVk?si=7V2SzKzsYA0061T-

it's like they missed the memo that life is a joke and made a music video more serious than life itself.

aside from that, it's good.

Dissident Sound 2y ago

Ok, this is an example of it being done right:

Varien - DEAD!NAME

https://youtu.be/r4oMAHxa_fo?si=ApRcusy0B_DrksLL