Nostr Web Client

So I was listening to nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchszxthwden5te0wpex2mtfw4kjuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuer9wfnkjemf9e3k7mf0qyd8wumn8ghj7ur4wfshv6tyvyhxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qpqdergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsce9rzs and nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hszxnhwden5te0wpuhyctdd9jzuenfv96x5ctx9e3k7mf0qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcqyqnxs90qeyssm73jf3kt5dtnk997ujw6ggy6j3t0jjzw2yrv6sy22vuwtly talk about replicating content across relays this morning, and so I wrote replicatr:

https://github.com/coracle-social/replicatr

Replicatr is a daemon which listens to one or more indexer relays for `kind 10002` events. When it detects a change in any user's relay selections, it uses negentropy to sync that user's notes to their new relays based on the outbox model.

The neat thing is you don't have to run one. I deployed one this morning which points to indexer.coracle.social, so if your metadata gets published there (or to any of the relays that it mirrors), you're already covered (unless your new outbox relay rejects replicatr's publishes).

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Gigi 2mo ago

👀

nostr:note1qsxw9hxrmyuuyny66fmz5w35pkzahaxmn72fuu4ymsp8mxrlx0es2ypeee

RedTailHawk 2mo ago

I consider it a minor miracle that I'm even using NOSTR as my relatively very limited coding background is mostly irrelevant.

With that in mind, I would not hesitate to call myself a NOSTR noob even though I've been here for a while, simply because I don't understand a lot of the super technical stuff. Frankly, I won't even use Github because I don't know how to navigate it.

That said, is this relay thing you made going to make my life easier as a NOSTR noob in terms of relay management?

Right now I kind of just hope it works and don't manage anything.

hodlbod 2mo ago

Yes! It should just work (tm) and make it more likely for your events to be found by clients following the outbox model

RedTailHawk 2mo ago

Thank you. NOSTR needs stuff like this. I would zap you but I’m having an electrical issue and my node is down and I am too much of a noob to work around it.

oadissin 2mo ago

Amazing stuff

THanks

2140.wtf #blockworkgallery 2mo ago

Interesting

Vitor Pamplona 2mo ago

Shouldn't it be the opposite. I find that indexer needs to pull for all other relays. There are new 10002 poping up everywhere but the index relays.

hodlbod 2mo ago

Well, that's sort of orthogonal to this problem, since the point of indexers is to have a copy of 10002s. But I agree that bootstrapping isn't really solved. Not all clients post relay selections to indexers, and even if they did indexers are sort of centralized right now. There should probably also be a service that scans the entire network and replicates relay selections to known indexers.

hodlbod 2mo ago

This service replicates everything else

Sebastix 2mo ago

I was thinking how we could add nostr into rclone

https://github.com/rclone/rclone

I use this tool quite a lot on different machines

Russell 2mo ago

I also think about it. The probleme is Blossom servers do not store file path nor file name but only hash. So we need somewhere a db that store the path to hash matchs.

I see 2 solutions:

Solution 1 is to create a centralized middle server that expose a S3 api to the end user (rclone will talk to this server) and this server will process the user request using nostr and blossom.

Solution 2 is to create a dedicated rclone remote for nostr + a new NIP to match the file path with the file hash.

I prefer the solution 2 but it's more complex to achieve. I will be happy to work on that project, I want it too !

hodlbod 2mo ago

There is this: https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/94.md which can be used to map hashes to names. rclone looks great, and nostr would be a natural fit.

Russell 2mo ago

Yes, it's the more suitable NIP for this purpose but it do not explicitly explain how to add the path + filename. I was thinking about adding a "path" tag to make it clear where the file is in the tree.

Do you have an idea for the path ? Because we need the path somewhere.

hodlbod 2mo ago

I don't think it would be bad to just add a `path` tag to that event, but I'm not really sure how people are currently using it, or how bad not having a path would be.

Russell 2mo ago

I made it !

https://gitworkshop.dev/npub1kg4sdvz3l4fr99n2jdz2vdxe2mpacva87hkdetv76ywacsfq5leqquw5te/relay.ngit.dev/nostr-rclone-remote/tree/master/backend/nostr

il_lost_ 2mo ago

there is this function in https://nadar.sandwich.farm/ Relay Propagation Checker nostr:npub1uac67zc9er54ln0kl6e4qp2y6ta3enfcg7ywnayshvlw9r5w6ehsqq99rx 😀

calle 2mo ago

this is the way. thank you for your awesome work.

No Solutions 2mo ago

👀

earthcuddle 2mo ago

Looks good. In which podcast were they taking about that?

hodlbod 2mo ago

https://fountain.fm/episode/e2Ub6SVUpp0ME9R1zIPb

earthcuddle 2mo ago

I made a library for app state replication. Would like to combine this with cross-relay replicatr. What you think about negentropy?

https://gitlab.com/orangeman/replistate

hodlbod 2mo ago

Neat! I like negentropy, welshman/net has support for it, and is actually what powers replicatr

gsovereignty 2mo ago

You can just make new stuff like this?

hodlbod 2mo ago

Only if you ask permission first

Lez 2mo ago

Great project!

I have a similar project, that does not DO sync, but it VISUALIZES the differences between relays. It's https://nostropus.com

It turns out that nostr.band is by far the best relay in keeping old notes...

SondreB 2mo ago

You probably know this already, strfry supports one-way and two-way sync setup very easily. Use it to keep all nostr:nprofile1qqsdr0fnxvmn8hxyz8cwazfm8zu9yt7qmc38ll69nkvsgn8dnej4sxckxm0xe discovery (indexing) relays in sync, and I sync with your index relay, purple pages and a couple of popular regular relays with one-way sync.

hodlbod 2mo ago

Yep, I use it to sync my indexer with a few others. Outbox model is somewhat more complex though, replicatr is intended to help fix missing note parents and stuff like that (although I can't help wondering if it's a band-aid solution).

PABLOF7z 2mo ago

so you're saying you are now into blastr?

hodlbod 2mo ago

PABLOF7z 2mo ago

the two last letters of your project beg to differ