Late stage fiat. The silver lining is that, if Bitcoin wins (it will), then these schemes will not be sustainable. I do think that those schemes are accelerating fiat collapse and some people who don't stop playing with them soon enough will get hurt.

Bitcoin back bonds and treasuries give me a weimar republic vibe. Im pretty sure people were getting that type of loans too to profit from the collapse of the mark.

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Yeah, I guess that's true. And I guess also in the long run, another silver lining is that as long as none of this crap affects how I can use Bitcoin personally then I guess I really shouldn't care if people are playing Fiat games. People will get burned, but imo that's part of playing Fiat Games.

At the end of the day, I can still send a vendor like you, Bitcoin, without a third party giving me permission, so I guess it doesn't really matter, and I don't have to put my Bitcoin into these schemes.