Anyone advocating for shitty porn to be kept onchain forever is on the βWRONG-ERβ side of history.
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No one is advocating for thatβ¦
they have latched on to the "lifting op_return limits in relay policy enables csam" which is factually incorrect. this can happen today without any changes to core, and it doesn't make it any easier either due to preferential peering of libre relay nodes.
basically they are just using this factually incorrect statement to attack core devs and to attract state level attacks.
Itβs pathetic and gross. Honestly I was going to stay out of this debate but the Knotzis have forced me to wade in.
this is exactly the kind of info ive been looking for.
Can you explain this better? How can this happen today?
Im not trying to make a point, im really trying to understand
because uncapped op_return is the actual rules of the network. capped op_return is an unenforceable policy that is easy to route around.
now if we think this is bad, we should softfork an actual limit so its impossible to get around.
When you mean easy? How easy, easy for very technical people, or like direct submission to miners? Because if its not feasible to reliably route around the op_return limit I don't see why you should be basically removing it
easy as in you can go to https://opreturnbot.com/ and put in whatever you want. this uses libre relay as their backend.
if you want something custom you can just download librerelay and send it that way.
people creating large op_returns with image data need to be somewhat technical anyways. if they can do that then they can download librerelay and broadcast it to a miner
there is no "upload jpg" on the bitcoin client, you will be using custom software regardless. and it can be as easy as a website. knots doesn't do shit all to stop it.
All non-monetary data transactions can be fixed.
Its because filters works. Thats why runes and ordinals shitcoiners are scared from tight nodes policies.
What do you think they will use the OP_Return for? Storing the Declaration of Independence? π
Sort of. Items as valuable now as the thing you've just mentioned. Independence from whom?
You are deliberately being obtuse. Removing the limit will only open the floodgate. This will lead to MORE spam, porn, and shit, NOT less.
No, Iβm not. You made a false statement. Correcting you is not βbeing obtuse.β
If youβre confused, read this:
What false statement? You think removing the OP_Return will lead to more spam is false? Stop thinking economically only. Why open an attack vector for anyone who wants to kill Bitcoin? Remember, you CANβT roll back the chain. It only takes 1 CSAM to open up a can of worms and fuck it up for everyone. FOR WHAT? So miners can make another dollar?
How?
