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What you're seeing is the contrast.

People whose reality is so different to yours (and the reality of most of people that you respect) that it appears clearly wrong & invalid.

Don't mistake that as being proof of an objective reality though.

I know it's unsettling, but the existence of an objective reality is an illusion. It is Maya.

Everyone's reality is unique & is constantly shifting & changing. Most people allow their reality to bend to what they believe others perceive.

Think about it. Everything we know to be true has been perceived by our senses & then translated into this thing we call reality. We both share a superficial reality. We can interact peacefully & civally without getting emotional or resorting to violence. Our realities align but they are never exactly the same. We both hear, see & think differently when exposed to the same stimulus. We can reach a shared understanding in order to exchange value. These other people hold such a divergent reality that it is near impossible to exchange value with them. I find it difficult to even be in the presence. Their reality is incompatible with my reality. I don't try to shift their reality though, I usually just avoid interacting with them.

You believe in the idea of an objective reality.

I believe that reality is a divine play of illusion. That none of this is real. It took me many years to accept this & I'm not judging you for believing different.

Neither one of us can decisively prove that the other is wrong. It is a purely a matter of belief, whether you believe it or not.

Sourcenode 2mo ago 💬 1

I see what you're getting at here and in some ways I agree, but Truth does exist. Logos.

For example, if I were to say that men can give birth I would be lying. Likewise if I said that 4+4=10 I would be incorrect.

No amount of lying, even if every human on the planet believed it could change reality.

I am resigned to the fact that people tell and believe lies, but I would not be willing to say their perspective is valid.

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Brisket 2mo ago

What I was getting at was Jeff enabled me to integrate something I hadn't quite been able to yet.

He was the perfect mirror for me at that moment in time.

I'd wager he's blissfully unaware of the value he gave me.

I want to argue the points you raised but perhaps it's best saved for another time.

Math is the closest to an objective truth I've come across & Bitcoin is math.

There are no coincidences.

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Comte de Sats Germain 2mo ago 💬 1

🤔 Math is this tricky thing... Its less objective than people realize, I think. It starts with symbolic and false assumptions (numbers), though true enough to get started, then goes through logic (the math, also Logos), then comes back to a false but useful enough symbolic conclusion - a number. Only the middle part is objective, and its not objective in the way people usually use the word.

I'm not saying 4+4=anything other than 8. The process is the objecrivity. But if you measure a table as 4 feet long, then you're actually wrong. It's actually 4 feet and some decimal with infinite digits. But the measurement was useful enough. So what I'm saying is, Truth isn't a static thing - its a process - so neither can objective reality be static things. Symbols are representative of a reality we can interact with (process) but never actually know.

This might've been off topic. Anyways...