Sorry, I meant to say range proofs, and although they are pretty old, I see now that Moneros specific implementation is actually relatively new

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Ah, was wondering as I was reading along what the chronology might be. That seems about right from what I remember

I think the specific implementation of Pedersen commitments is live since RingCt was introduced in January 2017

Will take your word for it as that’s deep in the weeds for me. I realize now I don’t know the chronology of a lot of the pieces. CTs were invented in 2014, or was that just the optimization by Blockstream and they date back further? I could look this stuff up, but if you happen to know please share. Ring sigs, range proofs, (anything I’m missing?) created quite a bit earlier?

pretty sure the idea of RingCT predates Bitcoin

i think it was Nick Szabo...?

ring signatures too, i think the idea is from before bitcoin.

range proofs,

which are the foundational maths,

are ancient.

mostly developed in the cryptography boom of the 80s and 90s I think.

Sounds right. I might have to dig a little just to satisfy curiosity on all these things

nice basic explanation here

https://unblock.net/ringct-vs-zk-snark/

Looks worth reading. 📝

worth noting the difference between a theoretical issue and and implementation one.

this is an *implementation concern.

ie, the maths aren't suspect, the concern is around how its applied.

as with Bitcoin, if you cant verify the implementation yourself,

what techniques can a person use to establish trust?