If I may jump in this conversation, there are a few things worthy of note when shouting-out to Christians, , regarding our take on material goods.

On what a Catholic (christian par excellence) economic model should be like, I always suggest Chesterton's take on distributism:

https://www.chesterton.org/category/discover-chesterton/chestertons-selected-works/the-distributist/

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1) Understand that it is fundamental to understand that Our Lord Jesus Christ was born in a manger, carried a heavy cross while suffering to purge our sufferings meanwhile showing us the way to follow Him. Until offering Himself in His greatest moment what allowed us to break free from death itself. His crucifixion is our reminder we die to beat death thanks to Our Lord Jesus Christ.

2) We shall remember Christianity has a tradition before the Bible itself, to which it is the compilation of revelations to be kept and followed since early ages bu Catholics and not to be tempered with. So we have 73 books of the Bible to take into consideration besides the tradition it is held by, which is safeguarded by our magisterium.

3) Any take you expect to have from certain groups supporting greed and hoarding of material goods will be confirmation bias to how greedy people live their lives. Those takes do exist and they are fruits from the theology of prosperity, which includes the infamous predestination as seen mainly amongst the calvinists, but at large by a great number of sects.

There is no problem with being rich. But there is with being a hoarder.

Usury is a sin. So-called christians who center they lives in hoarding material goods are usurers.

Be rich and use that as much as you can to support those in need. Not to exploit them.

That being said, Bitcoin is a tool. It is not an end in itself. We must use that tool to allow us to live like Our Lord Jesus Christ has deemed us to: love God in the person of thy neighbor.

The banking system as it is penalyzes people offering donations.

If we can not use Bitcoin to help those in need at any given time without being sued or overtaxed by the government, it is useless.

Everything we are meant to do with a tool must be seen under the light of accomplishing the works of mercy.

For the sake of the conversation, I would like to tag (some of which have already seen this):

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And because he was interested on Chesterton and some of his theories, I would like to invite nostr:npub1unsnfxtxsht58arcpq3d34rskx99zln79axv9v4awq5ar5sguv6qk68r2y in case he may find anything that interests him here.

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We’ve already talked about how usury is theft and is immoral, but I’m happy to give it another go.

We can talk about how we’re supposed to be charitable, but charity can only be voluntary.

We can talk about how it’s better to have the proper motivations for gathering wealth. Gathering wealth to have the means to help those around you is not at all the same as gathering wealth to satisfy your greed.

And so on.

I really like that topic nostr:npub1ecdlntvjzexlyfale2egzvvncc8tgqsaxkl5hw7xlgjv2cxs705s9qs735 I’d be interested in participating scheduling permitting.

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“You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and the first commandment. The second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39).

Charity is voluntary as any move to conversion is. Nonetheless, it is a commandment.

We agree to the fundamental need of charity and usury hinders that.

Usurers forget charity as a whole.

Theology of prosperity as much as theology of liberation shove aside the mystical aspect of abnegation as lived by Our Lord Jesus Christ and commanded by God.

We can talk about theology of prosperity and theology of liberation are two sides of the same coin.

Hi Gents

Thanks for feedback.

My goal is to have an open conversation with Jordan about his testimony, bitcoin journey and share some experiences from Tanzania.

Because you mentioned christians, my original reply was this one, including your invitation to talk.

It was supposed to be visible to you.

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Yes, no problem

My goal is to speak to Christians about Bitcoin.

I think speaking one to one I can get an individual perspective.

Have you read my first reply to you pinpointing some aspects to be taken in consideration when addressing a Christian economic model?

That sounds lovely!

We have the topics and the resources. Zap Stream and Nostr nests are there for our use.

For more on Distributism, see Hilaire Belloc's "Essay on the Restoration of Property"