OK, you get the problem. Bisq may be open source but their organisation - such that it is - is completely opaque. Getting real help from somebody who can actually do something about a situation, well, frankly it's impossible.

Plus there is nobody who can, say, update the website with clear info about where to got to for help and where not to. When you're seeing your funds locked up and pages and pages of technical jargon to even begin to know where to turn, the temptation is to grasp at anything.

So after endless discussions like these, and others, and spending hours wading through pages of impenetrable technical jargon I still seem no closer to the answer I need.

And I'm not about to hand over my keys. BUT, there is a reality check needed here, and there are genuine reasons to share keys with other systems, and this is a massive elephant in the room.

Moreover, I can protect my keys all I want, but if a trading partner divulges his keys in the middle of a trade, then I can still get totally rugged.

All of this means that, while I am in awe of the technical elegance of Bisq, until there is a proper, approachable organisation behind it, the way there is with, say, Exodus, I think it's just too fucking dangerous.