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It's actually easy to distinguish the different European ethnicities, genetically, since they have the largest, deepest data set.

English were rich and really racist, so they didn't interbreed and quickly sunk into genetic irrelevance, while the Scotts-Irish and Germans took over. Scandis stayed up North, near Canada.

Low Information Voter 1y ago

The largest and deepest dataset, absolutely, but raiders and traders blurred those boundaries even before modern transport technologies. Y-chromosomes in eastern England: at least 50% are indistinguishable from stay-at-home Germanics on the Continent. And 10% are Norse.

I also have grave suspicions about "didn't interbreed" in the context of pre-20th C British. Didn't intermarry? Perhaps. Didn't interbreed is lol, esp if they had money.

Most English settlers didn't have money, but there were so many of those its hard to believe they didn't leave a larger genetic footprint. This map has about as much English as I'd expect in Columbia, not one of Australia's siblings.

Open to what you say on intra-US migration, but I'd really like to see data.

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Silberengel 1y ago

You have to remember that the English came in the very first immigrant wave, then the Scotts-Irish, then the Germans, then the Mexicans. The later the wave, the more quickly you can expect them to cover long distances.

The English were also decimated in the French-Indian War, the Revolutionary War and Civil War, before the majority of Germans arrived. The numbers of dead are mind-boggling.

Silberengel 1y ago

"The most commonly reported ancestries of White Americans include English (12.5%), German (7.6%), Irish (5.3%), Italian (3.2%), and Polish (1.3%)...

The study concluded that English ancestry is the most common European ancestry among white Americans, with this component ranging between 20% (Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota) and 55% (Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas) of the total population (regardless of race) in all 50 states."

Probably has a lot to do with population-density and age. 🤔 Or the map really is just made up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans