the stupidest thing about #coretard arguments about allowing OP_RETURN to be bigger (as much as to 100kb) on the basis that it costs more is absurd, because spammers specifically want to pay as little as possible for their pollution.

it is irrelevant to the discussion of how to counter bloat of the blocks, because the cheapest way to spam the chain is by using SEGWIT and the TAPROOT implementation bug that removes the datacarrier limit.

how about stop defending your bad takes, and actually apply your pea brains to the question in hand: how to fix what went wrong when taproot unlocked the size limit on witness?

because that's the hole that is most glaring. instead they are talking about opening up OP_RETURN which by no reasonable logic will have any impact on the material problem that exists.

i thought that taproot would be good, enabling malleability-free signatures, more compact multisig and actually the whole thing was cocked up and was how this whole shit with ordinals on the chain started when someone figured out there was a vulnerability.

almost 2 years later and there's still no resolution for that, but instead we are hearing about how we should change the non-consensus mempool filter to allow more arbitrary data in another place in the code.

like, what the fuck, guys, you aren't doing your job. if the intention was to enable smart contract shit, then sure, but this just lets noise onto the chain, and potentially ugly noise.

fix the datacarrier limit problem, and fuck off with your psychological warfare against people who don't want to relay or store spam on their nodes.

the whole reason why so many people have started running knots is because there is a glaring hole in bitcoin's security against spam and there has been PLENTY of time to do something about it, instead of opening the path to even more irrelevant data, both OP_RETURN and BitVM bullcrap.

it's hard to not wonder whether the core team has got people playing with their minds and nudging them towards turning bitcoin into a tire fire of garbage.

Bitcoin is either censorship resistant or not. Can’t know until there is a good reason to attempt censorship. Apparently the CSAM that has been in the chain since forever isn’t enough of a test, I guess.

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A common thread I’ve noticed amongst node runners who care about this is that their use cases for bitcoin would be just as well served by setting blocksonly=1 in bitcoin.conf…

I didn’t hear you continue your point about censorship…

I didn’t. Bitcoin either is or isn’t. None of the current issue of the day changes this.

What makes Bitcoin censorship resistant is decentralised mining, not filter policies. You can have the most draconian filter policies and this still won’t prevent txs from ending in blocks. Highly centralised mining in the state that currently is tho…

Censorship resistance on a monetary protocol while people want to use it as decentralized s3 storage on my hardware, potentially for the worst things.

You already are hosting the worst of illegal numbers. And that shouldn’t change your view on bitcoin.

"Censorship-resistant" always meant "no one can stop you from sending value wherever you want to send it." It never meant sending whatever data, files, or messages you want. Allowing ultra-tiny designators to ride along with the value can perhaps be tolerated, so long as they are not viewed as a precedent for anything else. People who want to mess around or get rich quick should do it somewhere else and leave one of humanity's greatest discoveries the Hell alone.

I agree. I too want bad people to not do bad things or at least do them elsewhere. But whether or not they use bitcoin to do bad things is of no consequence to bitcoin. And if it is, we need a consensus rule change, not blocksonly mode.

Individuals controlling their own mempool is not censorship.

Totally agreed. I’m talking about the CSAM that is more and will also eventually be in the blockchain.

I suspect most of those who feel most strongly about this change would be better served by setting blocksonly=1

I just want a ledger of financial transactions ... I don't want to host your kiddie porn.

But you already do. Perhaps you should be in prison for it? I don’t think so, but a lot of people might.

No I don't.

So you don’t run a bitcoin node? Because there are illegal data stored in the blockchain.

You seem to know exactly where to find CSAM. I suggest you email nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqy2hwumn8ghj7ur4wfcxcetjv4kxz7fwvdhk6qpq50a8n72qa3y8cjlnm55vzugrgyg45jw4zj5s3e0jfjlgag6eeqxst2guwy

Sure thing. What’s your home address?