Still can’t believe we’ve come to this

Hey #[0]​ let’s make sure that we as bitcoiners fight for freedom and then the focus on the Note should express that

Yes, I understand there is that risk and I understand you may be trying to help people not to go to jail for that but we can’t simply give up to such censorship

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I think he is trying to make a point in his note.

He has been pointing LNURL flaws as of lately. This note is kind of his "conclusion".

I get that point but going straight into suggesting direct censorship doesn’t sound right

I would have said “hey .. given that I don’t like those flaws.. be mindful of certain risks that may force you to do things we don’t want like blocking IPs ..”

I’m literally just pointing out us law.

Which is a terrible law. Hence I would rather comment saying.. “I don’t like LNURLs flaws because it exposes you to this awful law so better do this “

I think you missed the point

He’s a blue-haired faggot. What do you expect?

This is part of the reason lightning is not as great as people think. This can’t happen on BTC, on Monero, or even on BCH. They’re uncensorable.

Didn’t want to be rude in that way. I respect #[2]​ but I don’t like the way he tried to make a point here

Not much point in trying to be civil when someone is supporting the exact antithesis of everything bitcoin was supposed to be for. It’s pathetic and it angers me. Normally I’d support being civil, but this stuff is truly wrong and harmful…

We’ve had finance dominated by TPTB for hundreds of years. We don’t want that anymore. Is that what lightning is going to be??

Just don’t use lnurl, bro.

I also don’t like the fact that LNURL/LNAddress tend to move people into custodial solutions .. I wish we don’t stop the fight for coming up with a standard that allows full self custody

There's nothing stopping somebody from accepting whoever they want on their lnurl server If they have no fear of the law. This is how to decentralization works. He can run his own server and decide not to censor anybody if he wants to, of course there may be reasons why he won't want to do that. Those reasons are the same If he decides to send monero to people in those regions.

The problem is that there’s nothing stopping somebody from blocking whoever they want from their lnurl server. But on bitcoin, no transaction can be blocked.

You're wrong you can create a protocol like this even for Monero and if you have to run a server for it you'd have to block countries that you don't want to serve for whatever reason. It is nothing to do with lightning in particular except that this is a service that you run on lightning instead of Monero or whatever.