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Can you show experiments where gravity or similar force causes density or buoyancy?

A force = motion

Do you agree motion causes density layers and buoyancy?

Remember if gravity causes things to fall, how does it push something in the opposite direction at the same time?

mar 4mo ago

In the Flat Earth model, we don't rely on gravity to explain density or buoyancy. Instead, buoyancy and density are understood as a result of the natural properties of matter. Less dense objects float in more dense fluids, because the denser medium pushes them upward, not due to any force pulling them down, but because of how the materials interact.

All you have is "theory" I have yet see some concrete physical evidence that directly support your claims. Theories are interesting, but they don’t carry the same weight as hard evidence. If you have any sources or experiments that prove the Earth is moving upward or that gravity works as described in mainstream science, then show me but I already know the answer.

You're not able to show me and physical evidence that the earth is a globe or moving.

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𝕞ptf 4mo ago

I have only practical reality, I am explaining and showing how density and buoyancy work. I don't claim any shape of the earth, just that it is moving upwards as shown by the facts of density, buoyancy, weight etc SHOW this.

Did you not watch the video?

If density and buoyancy are the Natural properties of matter - WHY in free fall do they stop??? Because they disconnected from the moving earth.

In the stationary flat earth model you DO rely on gravity or some invisible force (like the globe model) because you need to explain why objects fall down.

mar 4mo ago

Yes, I watched the video, it doesn’t prove anything. All it shows is a man holding a bottle with holes and dropping it. There’s no direct evidence here that supports the Earth moving upwards, just a demonstration of how buoyancy works in that specific context.

The stationary flat Earth model doesn’t need gravity to explain why things fall, it can be explained by density differences and the natural forces at play in a fluid medium. Objects fall or sink because of their relative density, not because of some invisible force like gravity.

𝕞ptf 4mo ago

What "natural forces" are at play? Please elaborate?

mar 4mo ago

Why do I have to elaborate? You can learn the flat earth theories online. Watch some videos, research it. I'm not really here to teach you the theories. I wanted evidence but you didn't provide any. You just provided some experiments and are asking me questions about flat earth which let's me know you haven't done any research on the theories or understand flat earth.

𝕞ptf 4mo ago

You made a claim, I was just asking why you believe that?

I know the theories and know Eric Dubay gives the same answer. He also can't provide proof of objects falling/acceleration to back up the earth being stationary.

Density and buoyancy are EFFECTS of a force (which you have half conceded)

I haven't provided evidence? What is an experiment? I have many more too.

mar 4mo ago

I’ve looked into both the globe theory and the flat Earth theory. After learning about both, I came to the conclusion that the flat Earth theory makes more sense to me.

It wasn’t about just choosing what sounds good, but using my instincts and observing the environment around me. It's that simple.

I’ve seen the evidence you’ve shared, and I understand what you're presenting, but for me, the experiments and observations don’t convince me. I’ve looked into both sides and made my own conclusion based on logic and what makes the most sense to me, not just on belief or trust in others.

Don't trust, verify

Don't trust my path to fire , verify

𝕞ptf 4mo ago

What experiments have you done to verify?

The earth clearly isnt flat or a globe but level (as in orientation).

https://youtu.be/pNZd4ntMjjM

mar 4mo ago

I don't understand what you believe. So you're saying you don't believe in the globe theory and also don't believe in the flat earth theory?

Show me a picture of what you believe the earth looks like.

I don't need to do any experiments on both theories. You just need to look around your environment with your human eyes.

𝕞ptf 4mo ago

I haven't adopted a new model. No one has been outside the reference frame, we dont know what the earth looks like.

The experiments are important because physics tells us how things work. How else do you know the truth?

mar 4mo ago

What do you mean nobody? In the globe theory, astronauts have been outside the globe, they say the earth is round and saw it with their own eyes. You have to trust them

In the flat earth theory, nobody has been to the edge or touched the firmament above us.

The only way to know the truth is to physically go to "space" or go to the "edge" of the earth but since you can't do that, there is no way to know the truth.

Maybe your experiments will help you decide which theory is the truth but it won't give you physical evidence.

experiments and observations help us test theories and refine our understanding, but they don’t necessarily give us “absolute” or “physical” proof in the way that some people might want.

𝕞ptf 4mo ago

I am talking about reality here, not theories.

Experiments ARE literally physical proof. We are checking the "science" behind the claims! LOL They are called FUNDAMENTAL truths because the laws of physics apply everywhere.

I know someone hasnt been to space because it defies PHYSICS! LOL

Air pressure requires a container/physical barrier, so we are in a contained system, there is no going outside!!

Rockets require combustion/air - that doesnt work in a vacuum! Etc etc

PHYSICS shows us that. Check for yourself.. Don't take my word for it.

mar 4mo ago

so then how come your experiments haven't made my eyes see the physical shape of the earth? Your experiments are no good.

𝕞ptf 4mo ago

Ive not been discussing the shape of the earth. We dont know it?

We just know that it is moving upwards. I showed you experiments with buoyancy up /down / left / right ALWAYS goes the direction of the force.

Do you agree buoyancy goes in the direction of a force?

So is the force upwards?

mar 4mo ago

I don't agree or disagree because I have not done any of my own experiments concerning buoyancy or force.

I don't see any evidence that the world we live in, is moving upwards. The world we live in is stationary.

𝕞ptf 4mo ago

It was fun discussion Mar but You can't not agree or disagree. Either you agree with reality or you deny it.

mar 4mo ago

You mean I either agree with your reality, or I deny your reality

You didn't provide any physical evidence other then some videos that is your reality

𝕞ptf 4mo ago

Does buoyancy always show the direction of a force? Yes/No

mar 4mo ago

Didn't I tell you that I haven't done any of those experiments or research myself, so how can I answer your question.

I'm not even sure what exactly your theory is since you said you don't believe in both the globe theory and flat theory.

No idea, what you are trying to figure out.

𝕞ptf 4mo ago

Just the truth