Bitcoin moves value across time extremely well and does not require lightning to do it.

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It does if you can afford chain fees. Suppose each fee is $30-$50 (happens twice already), would that work for people in developing nations?

💯 lightning is great for day to day transactions, but it’s not where I want to store my net worth. For that I’ll stick to the base chain for the foreseeable future.

But I fully agree lightning brings bitcoin to the masses and developing nations, I just don’t think bitcoin is doomed without it- atleast as a store of value.