I'll make a deal. Fictional negotiation time! Let them have a nuclear facility. When they inevitably create a weapon and use it, we Truman them and probably their allies. No whining about genocide. No crying about all the children.

If you can't agree to that, shut the fuck up and let the adults prevent that reality. Yes, we can all be sad that people died. But just putting our heads up our asses and allowing even deadlier situations to develop is retarded.

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As a fellow pragmatist...

I can see your point of view.

This shit is ugly, all around.

Hitler had a similar to that view of Jews. How did we not realise, to this day, that condemning and exterminating an entire nation is evil, without exceptions? I don't care what excuse someone will spin, and whether they target Jews or Palestinians, or Iranians.

Israel is ruled by violent religious zealots. The most violent and murderous in present day, world-wide.

Maybe the ideal is that we distribute from stockpiles to every nation. Change the psychology