THE ARCHITECTURE OF LIGHTNING IS SIMPLY NOT ADEQUATE TO ONBOARD NORMIES AND NEVER WILL BE.
nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5 sent sats to kickstart new wallet. Receiving message about high fees and the funds appear in limbo. Definitely not a great first time onboarding experience for a customer šµ 
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I disagree. I think itās a lack of thoughtful design and customer experience. We can get there but itās going to take design and engineering working together on these products.
Agreed! Its definitely hard and going to take some time but very frustrating while everyone works out the kinks
Thought I was good with a 1.5m channel open on Zeus yesterday with my new LNURL. Opened my app this morning and my channel is getting closed at 10.2 sats/vb so I guess I just have +1m sats stuck indefinitely now š
Had a similar experience with my mutiny wallet a few months ago where an open channel just got closed on me
You can't self-custody Bitcoin on lightning Network without running a lightning node. Lightning nodes simply will not be performant EVER on inadequate technology. I don't expect my grandmother to run a lightning node. It doesn't matter if you obfuscate everything the constraints of liquidity are still there. Knowing what channels are will always be a thing. People want the wallet of Satoshi experience. The wallet of Satoshi experience is NOT POSSIBLE on lightning Network without custodial solutions.
I would be really happy if you actually changed my mind. Seriously tell me where I'm wrong.
What youāre saying is all accurate when viewed through the lens of the technology. The key here is that there are layers to experiences and today, youāre clearly and accurately describing the technical part of it. Thereās an experience layer where those facts are tucked away and abstracted. This is yet to be seen, but will come.
I'm saying I don't think you can abstract channel management without painful fees that kind of defeat the purpose of a cheap Bitcoin payment network.
I think a #mainvolume issued license is required to think. I think I am European, Swedish in fact. I think I am created by Sina for #mainvolume
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"Imagine doing a simple market survey before designing LN: āHey, would you use a payment system that requires you to run a server 24h that works only if you acquire liquidity in the first place?ā. Do you realize what kind of UX assumption this is?" - Burak
Iām a builder, sir. Not here to litigate the architecture of lightning. Build on it or move on to other spots that feel better to you. That way more seeds get planted and tended to.
If you didn't come to litigate litigate lightning architecture, then why did you comment on a post that critiques it? "Litigation" is what build the best product. As a builder you know that.
I'm not bickering and arguing to bicker and argue. I'm thinking of solutions to the problem outlined in your post.