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I'm trying to read different docs, but I'm not fully understanding what I'm reading.

There's Alby, GetAlby, an Alby Chrome extension, AlbyHub, a node, a wallet, an open channel that has spending and savings, hooked up apps, each with a spending limit, but I have to buy another channel of something to receive payments? I subscribed to a cloud plan of some kind, but I don't know what place that's coming out of.

I think I have everything linked together right, but something is telling me I don't.

I clicked like on a post, but the heart didn't stay lit.

I'm signed in, but I'm not sure if this will post. (It didn't the first time I tried.)

I'm feeling a little lost.

I spent about 4 hours yesterday getting setup, saving keys, buying Bitcoin, but I still don't understand everything.

Where can I go to see the relationships between all the "things" in complete newbie speak?

I want to make sure I understand and that I'm doing things in a way that won't wreck anything important.

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alp 1y ago

First of all, what nostr client are you using? Something on desktop or mobile? If desktop, is it Primal or something else?

Regarding "Alby, GetAlby, an Alby Chrome extension" they're all the same. Alby is the Lightning service, getalby.com its domain name and with the extension you can handle your Lightning payments (pay, receive) and your Nostr logins, if you added your Nostr private key to it. With that, you can login to every Nostr client without having to enter your secret key to the client directly. Then Alby does that for you. But you have to choose "Login with Extension" at each client or similar.

"... AlbyHub, a node, a wallet, an open channel that has spending and savings, hooked up apps, each with a spending limit, but I have to buy another channel of something to receive payments?"

You probably only have a Lightning address (technically it is not a "wallet") from Alby which you can add to your profile in a Nostr client and then you can zap and get zapped. All the other stuff (which I don't understand tbh), I don't know what you've setup but it's definitaly not necessary to use Nostr.

alp 1y ago

Good, seems like you have set up your Lightning address correctly.

Misty 1y ago

Yes. Thank you for that.

I was able to see how it went to the address and ended up in the "wallet" provided by Alby, which means it's all going to the same and correct place.

Here's what happened:

I started out in Primal and set up an initial account. This created an address.

Then I tried to setup Alby, but initially did not have the invite, so I tried to configure nos.

Then I got the invite.

During set up, the workflow in Alby was a bit different than the document I was reading and I wasn't sure what to choose. It said in order to connect my wallet, I had to choose how I wanted to do so - cloud, self-host, and a couple of other options.

I hadn't planned on spending considerable time setting up everything that day, so I chose the cloud-based one.

This, I think, spun up a node which provided a lightning address (another address), wallet (the UI says "Wallet" in Alby Hub), the Hub itself which contained a wallet, the ability to create channels (to send and receive money, I think like its own payment processor? - details are still a bit fuzzy), and a place to manage connections to various Nostr apps.

But I had to agree to a subscription plan to connect everything (I had to Google how much sats actually cost and what that all means), then I had to fund the wallet to open a channel to send payments and buy another channel to receive payments. These channels all costed various amounts of sats.

There was nothing in the setup process Alby was asking me to perform to let me know all of that really wasn't necessary.

Somewhere in it all, I ended up changing the connections in Alby to get it all to point to the right place (to the first address, not the new one).

I noticed the Alby extension and the hub/node-thing it created each had their own keys (which is why I thought they were all different).

I still have a lot of questions.

The other stuff, I still do not understand, but will continue to work my way through the documentation to learn.

alp 1y ago

Ok, sounds like alot of things changed since my initial setup. This eco system moves fast.

But you have an account, you can post, zap and get zapped, so the basics are already set up.

Alby 1y ago

Hey, thank you a lot for that much exploring on your own! We are just releasing and testing upcoming product, some people like you put their hand on it - nice!

We're happy to answer any questions - here on Nostr, or (better) at our community https://discord.getalby.com or at a videocall https://cal.com/getalby