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Government in FORCE. It is not people voluntarily pooling there money for some cause which they can easily do privately. Government takes without needing your permission. Government takes a huge cut as well and cannot help but be corrupt with such involuntary power concentration. Before government owned or monpolized so much of medicine and healthcare there were things like voluntary Mutual Aid societies.

Mike Dilger ☑️ 11mo ago

I get that. And I agree. But I didn't want to derail my point which if you read my post was about market forces, not about abuse of the power of government.

We gave government the right to use force because there is no other counter to criminals using force. We didn't give them this very serious power in order to force people to participate in collective action, or do any other whistful thing some politician thinks up. They abuse our consent and now control us as tax slaves. And I am 100% against this. But also I don't have any hope that any nation of people could ever actually hold their government to account once you cede to them this power, unless those people were culturally very special, very like-minded, and very ornery.

And in conclusion I think that people aren't ornery enough anymore.

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Node Runner 11mo ago

What do banks use to counter criminals using force?

Mike Dilger ☑️ 11mo ago

dye packs

Node Runner 11mo ago

Not counting inflation, they don't use our tax dollars.

sister_sam 11mo ago

We are the counter to criminals using force. Much easier to defend against criminals instead of out of control government that claims right to kill you if you resist and also claims it can not be held liable if it does not defend you from criminals. Oh and also takes half of what we earn in protection money for no guarantee of protection. Yeah we really need the because.. criminals. We need more like minded, ornery pro-freedom people for sure!