Was it this one?
https://whatismoneypodcast.com/episodes/rise-of-the-self-sovereign-internet-with-christian-langalis-wim226-IMRxKbT8
No it was this from December 2023.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/urbit-is-the-new-internet-w-christian-langalis/id1618973677?i=1000637784347
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