Nostr Web Client

No they don't. They don't collect location, payment, contact, health data etc, and then sell it to advertisers. Facebook, Twitter, etc do. It's literally their business 😂

ภ๏รtг๏ภคยt 2y ago

So, relays may not have that kind of todays sellable data, but they do have data that might be sellable later on...

Back to that "nothings free" logic...100% AGREE!

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Nostr was free to join. Cost me nothing to create my nsec... why?

Because once again, us users are the product.

Have any clue what for?

For us to buy the products and services the devs are making, and charging us for, like to actually post larger files or go live as some examples...

It boggles my mind when folks ask why nostr hasn't won yet...

To me it's pretty obvious,

Nostr is pay to play.

And you have to use bitcoin.

I can't even pay for things in useless fiat, devs want my hard earned limited supply one of a kind bitcoin for services that are basic and standard other places like...

For me to stream live...

For me to post larger file content...

For me to let a relay store/broadcast my thoughts & ideas (data)

Etc

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ภ๏รtг๏ภคยt 2y ago

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There has to be a better way for socials to remain free, obtain value from its users to maintain/expand services, while also not sacrificing user privacy or data....

Ryan 2y ago

I think we just fundamentally disagree.

I actually have my own webserver, I could easily host my own videos and pictures, I have enough space and bandwidth and unused domains.

I still purchased a creator account on nostr:npub1nxy4qpqnld6kmpphjykvx2lqwvxmuxluddwjamm4nc29ds3elyzsm5avr7 because I believe they offer a useful service at a good price, and I think rewarding the people who are building the tools on top of the Nostr protocol is needed ( nostr:npub137c5pd8gmhhe0njtsgwjgunc5xjr2vmzvglkgqs5sjeh972gqqxqjak37w👍).

Other free options include nostr:npub1zdr58j526qsrkdjhcg9xs60xfutqeey2ucugms04efnlx3spnmns2eqha9 nostr:npub1zxzmle6ysrvsqa4fujq352hsvclhu5faenyl6qnvxy3ux229z2aslmvwsx and nostrimg.com.

Nostr is awash with choice, or you can build your own! I'm sure a no fee, unlimited, ad-free, privacy respecting video service would be quite popular 😂

I've paid for like 15 relays, 3 of which I still use. Not even mad, cost me a couple daily DCA worth of sats total, and helped devs and relay runners figure out what sort of setup would work for running a good relay. The paid ones that remain are solid( nostr:npub18kzz4lkdtc5n729kvfunxuz287uvu9f64ywhjz43ra482t2y5sks0mx5sz 👍), plus great free options are available now as well!

Free public relay

nostr:npub16fcy8ynknssdv7s487nh4p2h4vr3aun64lpfea45d7h4sts9jheqevshgh @nostr.band

Sends your notes to multiple relay

nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg blaster relay

I think it is important to remember Nostr is a in development beta test of a new free, uncensored, decentralized social media protocol. It is created and maintained by a loose, growing coalition of volunteers & friends. I'll bet the thing that makes Nostr big hasn't even been imagined yet. Copying what already exists, but free, won't be it.

It might be wise to maintain some perspective. You're comparing Nostr to centralized & controlled, decade old social media platforms ran by some of the world's largest corporations. 🤔

Relayable.org 2y ago

You "pay" so much more when you use "free" surveillance economy services.