it's just a smoother and safer pipeline to get the average normie to download cake wallet get some xmr and start transacting privately then trying to get that same normie to trust (or run) and understand a lightning solution and do the same

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So your opinion is that monero is better than bitcoin at converting to fiat?

no bitcoin has larger daily liquidity than monero. my opinion is that monero has a larger P2P marketplace.

Do you have any evidence for this because I see much more activity on the blockchain and second layers than all of monero

my conclusions have been drawn from trying to exclusively use bitcoin and then seeing all the things available for monero. only anecdotal and experiential really.

But you can’t exclusively use monero either and the little things you have to use with monero, like gift cards, can easily be used with bitcoin too. So why use monero if bitcoin can do the same thing AND grow your purchasing power? You can swap your bitcoin for gift cards and other things like that too. What’s the primary benefit of using monero? Privacy? Use non kyc lightning.

I do have bitcoin because of the network effect and consistent store of value. having used lightning (your glossing over all custodial problems with it) and monero both, monero is just 10x easier for private payments. I'm not really a giftcard user. I generally use monero for p2p purchases. I'm not sure how often you use crypto for p2p purchases? I think if you compare your own experience after using both you'll come to similar conclusions.

So you prefer the privacy convenience of monero to the extra privacy steps needed for bitcoin. But the lost gains in purchasing power when holding monero is the real price you pay for “convenience.”

you keep pretending you can do the same things on Bitcoin that you can do on Monero.

of course,

you refuse to show any receipts so...

And you keep moving the goal posts. Answer my question. Do you pay for your rent, gas, and groceries with monero?

I do pay for my phone bill (cloaked wireless) vpn (mullvad) and Ai subscriptions (Pay Per Q) in monero.

I would say it's not that black and white as npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa is alluding too. I am willing to forgo potential gains to support monero as a project on principle yes. That also comes with the potential of monero out pacing bitcoin in relative percentage gain even if it never exceeds bitcoins marketcap. historically a bad bet but it's primarily a decision of principle.

http://xmrcards7pb5dnj5dfbnueigmzwgujwlo5zhd6f3vnlhay6qlbd3dzid.onion/

The power lies within P2P transaction. In the meanwhile this gets you almost anything as private as it gets.

This doesn’t open but it looks like it’s a marketplace for gift cards. So you’re just holding monero as an inferior store of value until you swap for fiat credits.

This should open on Torbrowser. It's a way to anonymously and worldwide buy almost anything.

It's not buying fiat. It's buying credit for products with an actual company. They have an obligation to fulfill that claim.

How is this different from buying a gift card with bitcoin?

P2P markets:

RetoSwap (1 year) vs Bisq (10 years)