A government is how a community organizes power to make collective decisions, maintain order, and provide public services.
Discussion
Was the entire community involved when the constitution, articles of confederation, and Declaration of Independence were created?
The better question is can members of the community choose to get involved?
No. The better question is can “members” choose to opt out freely without violence directed at them. You don’t wanna shop at Walmart? You don’t have to vote and gather majority support for the right to shop somewhere else. That’s freedom. You don’t want to pay taxes for cops? Too bad the community “voted” so you have to obey or you’ll be murdered or thrown in a cage. That’s retarded and tyrannical. This type of violence and reasoning means you have no respect for human life.
Your options are fight or flight. If your way of fighting is posting on nostr then 🫡 I see you.
This is the false dilemma or false dichotomy logical fallacy
Yes maybe. I think the next logical question is suppose you’re the American President, what’s the first 3 things you do?
The thing about fearing authoritarianism and power is that everyone’s afraid the next big idea end ups being some weird trade off of the same thing.
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
-Animal Farm
Freedom isn’t for cowards. And most are ruled by fear. There is no reason the masses should be afraid of the minority that is government. It really makes no sense. https://youtu.be/H6b70TUbdfs
No disagreement here.
Correct. It's not scary to defend the tyrants that enslave you. It's scary to speak out against it. To risk losing friends and becoming ostracized by those who fear change.
Yeah maybe, that’s what the new tyrants will want us believing also. That’s actually the first thing they say to you.
Step down, find a job, stack sats.
That’s actually what George Washington did. I think? But that doesn’t prevent the next guy from stepping in.
Because you think that the system can be fixed. The system is broken by design. The intentions of the “founders” of this “country” don’t matter. In reality, it’s broken and tyrannical.
Suppose that’s all true. At what point do we go beyond criticizing the thing and do something more to change it?
Before change can happen, you must be aware of the problem. That starts with people who defend false ideas.
Oh I didn’t realize you were recruiting 😂 I think I am going to step down and stack sats.
You’re showing me a potential for something I already acknowledged, and there’s a word for that in the dictionary: authoritarianism. The word government by itself is a more generic term, people tend to project personal views and context onto it that says more about the person than the word itself.
Speak for yourself my guy. Your definitions of government imply consent when none was given. Do you know what consent means? No community in human history has ever collectively agreed on the establishment of any government anywhere. Some may want it and others don’t. Yet it is still imposed on those who don’t, meaning it is NOT consensual and the community did not collectively agree. There is practically no difference between a “government” and a mafia. The only difference is that a government gives you a political ritual (i.e. voting) and gaslights you into thinking this whole thing is good for you and what you want. Mafias are at least more honest. Coercion and violence have always been necessary to establish any government. Which means that if you believe government is necessary for society to function, then you believe societies require violence and coercion to function. And that further implies you don’t believe in consensual relationships 🤷♂️
You can think boy all day about this subject, but a government-citizen relationship literally cannot be consensual and can never have a collective agreement from everyone to live under its rule.
I don’t disagree with that sentiment. There are at least 2 views on American government :
(1) The American experience is finished. Game Over.
(2) The American experience is an experiment that is still unfolding. Then game on.
“The experiment of America is new, and it may be delicate.”
-Thomas Jefferson
The experiment has failed 