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I can't stand HPs too.

Equally I can't stand KDE lol. Used to be a fan of MATE but gone full XFCE now...

I used to like Debian until the freedom changes implemented in Debian12, might as well run Ubuntu or Mint at that point. Trisquel was good for freedom but quite limited.

EndeavourOS seems like a happy medium to me all things considered.

BitTiger 1y ago

KDE I feel is good for a certain personality type. The ones who want to have everything exactly the way they want it. While always looking good doing it. Even if it can get a little buggy sometimes with newer versions. It is for people with OCD and a taste for classy linux life.

Overall, it is not for me either, but it is for a lot of people. Winblows tends to also steal their homework and turn it in as their own often too. So I have to still recommend it in good faith.

I love Trisquel for maximum FOSS freedom but it is tricky to install depending on the hardware you have. For instance as much as I want to I cant even install it on bare metal, only in a virtual machine.

Endeavour OS is a happy medium. It is Arch Linux on easy mode. I cant really knock it all that much. I just dont fully trust it as a daily driver. To be honest I had a valid reason for that sentiment, but I cant remember why at the moment. So I will let you know if I remember why I stopped using it as a daily driver lol.

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cryptowolf 1y ago

Ive just started using both Arch and EndeavourOS as my daily drivers, but will let you know if I run into any snags.

obviously this will be different for newbies as im about 17 years into my journey and taken some free sysAdmin courses and setup my own headless CLI media servers at home.

I love the concept behind system76 but they are so damn overpriced and bulky.

Love older MacBook Air for portability and ThinkPads for a happy medium of that and Freedom.

onpoint 1y ago

I'm learning from you two going back and forth...love the info!

BitTiger 1y ago

Not gonna lie. Love me some ThinkPads too.

Just for their keyboard though. Which is second to none. All metal casing is nice too.

Build quality is alright, but it is a far cry from the old T410s days where they were a fucking durable tank. Back then you could chuck it across the room like a frisby and it be perfectly fine. Now even for self repair and upgrades. The modern ThinkPads are more finicky and fragile once you open them up. I feel like an old fart saying they dont build them like they used to.

Stay the fuck away from Apple hardware. Sure they are excellent build quality. However as someone who worked in a certified apple repair store. Seeing the capabilities Apple has behind the scenes to remotely fuck with your hardware. Even with Linux on it. Im just going to say a fuckedity nope nope.

Even though many people never experience any problems whatsoever when they convert mac hardware to Linux. I am just a little too skeptical, paranoid, and overly cautious. Especially when it comes to owning anything that Apple makes in the first place.

cryptowolf 1y ago

My T420 is still running. 24/7 365 for almost 15, years now.

I've never purchased aoole product and never will. My late dad pulled a 2011 Mac Book Air 13" out of a garbage can and I put Arch Linux on it.

Great for making house calls to my plebs with.