Nostr Web Client

What is this in Nostrudel? I already have relays configured. I don't want Nostrudel doing anything to them but it won't let me past this page without clicking an option.

hzrd149 1y ago

Added the option to use your existing NIP-65 relay set if you don't want to select relays.

The reason the app prompts you to select relays though is I'm trying to get away from using the users NIP-65 relay set (Inbox/Outbox) relays for the general app configuration. Its not what the nip was designed for and its lead to users having 20+ relays in their Inbox / Outbox which makes it really difficult to find their notes.

Also relay sets are much better solution then using the NIP-65 relay list as the apps default relays

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corndalorian 1y ago

Thank you for the option. I've already selected my relays in other clients and I don't need yours trying to change them. I like nostrudel but that doesn't seem like the right approach.

Scott 1y ago

He’s asking for app specific relays that only nostrudel will use. Shouldn’t impact any other apps.

freedom dev 𓅦 1y ago

It impacts the user experience though. There are some relays I don't want to interact with. Maybe I want to interact only with my own relay. This is kind of pushy.

corndalorian 1y ago

💯

Scott 1y ago

Can’t you just limit your selection to just your own relay? Or are you more critiquing the outbox model?

freedom dev 𓅦 1y ago

I'm sorry. I think the other users complaining and myself didn't wait enough.

If you wait enough, an option to "use your existing relays" appears!

I never saw this before.

Maybe the other options should wait until there's a definitive answer whether there are or there aren't existing preferred relays. 👌

As for the transparency issue (normal people are not interested in knowing what relays are), later down the road maybe this relay selection stuff could be moved to after the login stage somehow, like notifications from the app or something.

freedom dev 𓅦 1y ago

Also I noticed that this selection dialog appears twice, before and after login, at least when using nsec.

Also strike where I said "after the login stage", I meant "after app use", like 5 minutes after login, for example.

Scott 1y ago

I agree with most of what you’re saying. I do, however, think that the role is relays for the average user is still an open question. It may end up the case that they become a basic user interface element.

mattybs 1y ago

Thank you for this explanation!

freedom dev 𓅦 1y ago

Relays should be a transparent thing for new users. They shouldn't need to know they exist. This approach is kind of too cold, I think.

Leo Wandersleb 1y ago

It's scary and unintuitive to most users.

Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

Yes, please. NIP 65 should be really tiny.