So let me get this straight, the bitcoin knots guy and CSAM crusader said one instance of CSAM on chain will kill bitcoin yet the cult of catholicism that he supports and participates in has thousands of proven child rapes (and cover ups) by cult “leadership” and middle management.

I wonder if this irony is rooted in guilty conscience or it’s just some sick plot twist.

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What a retarded thing to say

Had I monetarily supported an organization that committed mass-pedophilia across the globe I’d feel like a piece of shit too and maybe subconsciously try to make it better

I'm not saying this is the case, but it's a plausible psychological situation.

Case in point: Ted Haggard.

I’m not saying it’s the case either. But it’s a valid observation.

Welll...you got ONE thing straight, that CSAM is not welcome. Your other attempts were lame though. We see you.

It’s quite an interesting dichotomy. Very against CSAM, but actively supporting a massive global boy raping institution. Weird.

"Hey guys! Don't worry about de-gens destroying Bitcoin, let's deface the guy who is working to stop them (again)!"....

Now THAT is weird.

Ignoring the fact that some actively supports pedophilia irl isn’t a good policy. I don’t care what they’re doing outside of that.

But now I can see why you’re the type that also ignores the fact that OP_RETURN limits do nothing. Best of luck bae💋

You really are an odd unit, and not in a good way.

Bringing his Catholicism into this is besides the point. I see a very real attack vector if CSAM makes it into blocks. Do you think plebs will continue to run Bitcoin nodes if they have governments threatening to prosecute them for hosting CSAM on their computers? Please explain how this is not a serious concern to you.

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You still didn’t address the actual issue. You are using the “blame the messenger” fallacy in your argument. It doesn’t matter Luke’s involvement with the Catholic Church is, does his concern about a CSAM attack vector hold weight or not? That is the question.

I find it wildly ironic, that’s all. Life long supporter of what he’s crusading against.

CSAM already exists on chain. Why has all of the sudden it become an existential threat? Nobody cared before.

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There is plausible deniability if you have to pull together chunks of data that were crammed into odd places (like public keys, or what not). But encouraging contiguous data storage in OP_RETURN makes this attack vector much easier for law enforcement to prosecute. It’s rolling out a welcome mat to garbage and worse.

The exact same plausible deniability exists when it is 100% forensically provable that users who run a node are simply storing the data of an open public ledger and that any OP_RETURN data in question originated elsewhere.

How do you know that? This is just conjecture. Also, we even have a case study with BSV. They opened up OP_RETURN in the same way and shit went downhill fast. Seems like we should be very cautious here, and I don’t see that from Core.

It’s not conjecture. It’s demonstrable system architecture.

What is conjecture is your scary story. Show me a case where a node runner has been prosecuted for an illicit entry on public timechain.

It is conjecture for both of us. You are assuming it won’t be a legal problem and Luke and others are saying it very well could be.

The wise course of action would be to do all in our power to stop non-monetary usage of the blockchain instead of rolling out the red carpet to this sort of thing.

Just because no one has been prosecuted doesn’t mean it can’t happen. Why take the risk when there is no good argument for Bitcoin to be used in this way to begin with?

There is no way to stop spam on chain. There are only tradeoffs.

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That’s like taking your condom off, going raw and yelling to your wife, “there’s no way to stop pregnancy, there are only tradeoffs!”

Stupid, lazy and meaningless low iq reply. I see you don’t understand the situation and that’s okay. But I’m not going to waste any more of my time with you.

I guess you don’t get the analogy because you are an incel. I hope you find a wife someday so you can understand.

Emotional and un-christian response. You have failed as a christian role model today.

Calling a spade a spade is very much a Christ-like thing to do.

You are hiding behind a pfp and a nym. Based on your behavior and inability to understand a very simple analogy using sex, it would seem you may be an incel. Am I wrong?

It’s easy to call people retarded and act tough without revealing anything about yourself. From our interaction, you are a coward who likes to act tough. You are a keyboard warrior.

Why should anyone care about your opinion? What have you accomplished?

Hilarious that you have to make up a little story about me being a keyboard warrior because I triggered you and made you feel stupid on multiple occasions.

Never called you retarded or acted tough though 😂😂😂😂 reread the thread it’s all there. But you did get emotional and make up a very unchristian fiction about me being an incel.

I love that you’re just making up new rules for Christianity now lmao it’s not “turn the other cheek” no acktually it’s “christ would call a spade a spade” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 such clown behavior. And you’re saying this about someone you don’t even know making it 1000x more disingenuous. Of course you’re wrong, but I don’t get defensive about some dork acting a fool on the internet. Par for the course especially of your ilk.

You are delusional and unwell delusionals can’t be reason with. It is what it is.

absolutely retarded take - nice reveal!

Thanks for letting me know to unfollow lmao clown 🤡

I’ve always thought the CSAM thing was a bad faith argument. Frankly, I think both core and knots have lost the plot. There’s also no legitimate reason to update to core v30, imo.

What’s really telling is how people react when you criticize Luke or knots. They absolutely flip their lid, and accuse people of ad hominem whilst engaging in it themselves by shouting about CSAM.

I completely agree with everything you wrote.

Bitcoin’s sole intent.

Let’s keep on task please.

You can’t stop spam. There has been spam on chain for over a decade and no matter what the devs do there will be spam.

Use bitcoin as cash. That’s what I do. But spammers can’t be stopped, period. The best and only hope is for them to priced out of txs.