If it was definitive that we are the most advanced species in the universe, would you feel a greater responsibility in ensuring our collective survival?

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yes

When I study great artists or musicians, that already makes me feel this way!

how is it definitive inside this scenario

Very

Intriguing question! No, I don’t believe I would feel a greater responsibility based on this factor alone.

No.

First I'd laugh.

It depends on what you mean by collective survival and what it is you think I should be responsible for. I'm responsible for my own survival. I may contribute things that help others survive (like my work in emergency medicine, for example), but I don't owe anyone my time in this position. It isn't my responsibility to keep doing it. It is my responsibility to not violate the rights of others to survive, but I'm not ultimately responsible for them.

Again, this depends on what you mean. It's a broad question.

Would you work more diligently in areas that help the species survive? That means probably not just ensuring your own survival - though that probably helps if you have kids.

No, because I try to live the best life I can for myself already. To do that, I must pursue my own rational self-interest. It just happens that pursuing my own rational self-interest also benefits others. I think that's true in most cases. Otherwise, what you're doing is self-sacrifice and I think that's evil.

My purpose is not to make sure that future humans survive. My purpose is to live my one life to the fullest to the extent I can. There is no moral duty beyond that (of course, having children would impose a moral duty, but that is a separate issue and a reason people should choose only after deep reflection).

It happens that I value humans greatly and already want them to thrive, regardless of whether or not something more intelligent exists. So to answer, I already am. Humanity itself is already enough for me. I wouldn't forsake it just because something else exists.

Read The Virtue of Selfishness by Ayn Rand. She makes a lot of good points on this topic.

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Yes 100%

Would say no, if we are not the ones, someone else will

Let’s get Bryan Johnson on Nostr Lmao

Who?

I'd follow what Ridley Scott says

no

As it stands, until we have proof that there's life elsewhere, I feel we have an obligation, if we are capable, of spreading life further afield. The moment we have definitive proof of life elsewhere, not our problem. Our personal survival as a species is less important than life itself.

No. IDGAF about the rest of the universe. I'm here. I'll do what's right for me and mine.

Super depressing answer

Nope.

Liberating.

I am unburdened by too large a sphere of concern. I will have more to give to those that matter the most to me.

People can make analogies of this to races in old history and the views (whether true or not) they had against one another.

I would want to dominate or necessarily ensure mine over another in that case.

Likewise, extrapolating that to the species (all humans) against aliens, I don't see why it should be different.

i personally think it's highly unlikely aliens get off their planet without solving the psychopath problem, and when they do, they certainly aren't going to let this mind virus come to their colonies

who else but megalomaniacs would want to trick millions of people into murdering each other?

*I would not want to dominate over.

Typo

Psychopath problem?

how many people in the population can spot a psychopath, and how many can pressure everyone to pretend they aren't?

"give him the benefit of the doubt" etc etc etc

a story as old as the oldest books in the bible refer to (i mean garden of eden)

No! Just do what you do best, and that’s all. 🐶🐾🫡

Pursuing your's and your family's best interest (selfishness), within a framework of strong protections for negative rights, is the most effective way to improve the "collective" interest.

I would continue advocating for the minimization and eventual abolition of the state. It's our most destructive institution. If the goal is to preserve the species and expand, it's gotta go.

Continued development of Bitcoin backed eCash (and L2+ more generally) would also be super crucial if we're going to become multi-planitary...

We know how the story end

absolutely

I think there are greater reasons why we should care about our collective survival.. So no, but not because I don't care about the human race.

I think as a species we inherently like to cooperate to strive for amazing things. I would like to think the majority of us would at least somewhat feel responsible for our survival. We tend to develop large institutions to coordinate and help accomplish this. The problem is corruption seems to distort a lot of these good intentions and people lose trust.

My role model is Captain Jean-Luc Picard and the Federation of Planets anyway, so yes. And not only ours but also other species.

I think I would. It kind of depends on if you think this is all real. If we're the most advanced sim in the game, but there's a world external to us, do you feel the same responsibility to care for your sandbox environment?

Survival is relative