You seem to be saying that the fact that there are virus particles grown in a 2% medium contradicts the foundations of virology.
That's not "sterile." They're adding virus to cells that have already been grown. There's no reason why viruses *shouldn't* or couldn't replicate under these conditions.
And even if what you say is true, how does that undercut the foundations of Virology? What fundamental claims of the subject are incorrect as a result?
here is a viral experiment: take a sample from somebody who is unwell. grow vero cells at 10% fetal bovine serum (FBS). ensure the cells are virus free because you got them from a certified supplier. reduce the FBS to 2% for maintenance. then inject the viral sample. Then wait and observe the cytopathic effects of cell death. then sample the dish to look for foreign genomic material that you call virus.
1. the cytopathic effects might be from the maintenance concentration
2. the cytopathic effects might be from the virus
3. of course you will find foreign dna because you introduced it to the medium.
this is a modern viral experiment and it unfortunately can't show anything except that you can get foreign DNA from a sample that you introduced foreign dna into in the first place.
So you do a control with no virus, and the cells survive just fine under "maintenance" mode.
Which (according to Gemini, and I have every reason to believe because these scientists aren't morons) is exactly what they do.
This contradicts your claim.
Love this thread. Debate is so key to all of this
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Being skeptical is very important, but so is being open-minded
Lots more questions please!
viruses might exist or they might not but what is mind blowing is this is how we currently "prove" that they do exist and it is laughable
Yeah I guess the moon "might or might not" exist. Laughable indeed.
We prove they exist by TEM and DNA evidence. Which doesn't require this study protocol that seems to be the lynchpin of your argument.
