I don’t like Peterson. He teaches the nobility of suffering, obedience to order, and submission to tradition... like a modern-day ascetic priest, dressed in Jungian symbolism and drunk on scientism.

He speaks endlessly, but says very little.

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He actually talks a lot about the fact that too much order can become tyranny. He also points out that you probably shouldn't aim to tear things apart until you undertand why they were there in the first place, which generally requires a whole lot of humility. People who have a tendency to want to label all disagreement as "racism" or "bigotry" generally need to be told that they aren't that bright & they need to think again.

I agree that having suffered is not something to celebrate, but the message I have seen from him is that we need to live in accordance with ideas & principles that make us like the person we are. The nature of the world is such that some suffering is likely. And if we have lived what we believe then at least when everything else falls apart we have our reasons for the things we chose & we can live with ourselves. It's about being able to survive the low points & about not contributing to conditions that will make life hell for everyone.

Jordan Peterson’s ideas help a lot of people, but he’s not for me. I’m more interested in questioning systems, not adapting to them. His focus on discipline and tradition feels more like maintaining the status quo than challenging it.