Nostr Web Client

If it is primal, then yes they need to preemptively screen that. But this a different point - I don't think there is any argument for the post itself to stay on the relays, even if it is 'just' text.

I, and other users want to interact as minimally as possible with that radioactive content. A relay report was sent to damus and nostr.band, not Primal, because those are the relays my client found the note. I'm not going to find the text link.

jb55 11mo ago

It is primal. Taking down the media is the most effective method. Notes and Links are easily copied and replicated. People could auto-mirror and blast the note to every public visible relay. nostr is censorship resistant this way. if it was easy to get every relay operator to take down the link it wouldn’t be. Taking down the media is the only thing that makes sense.

In the outbox model you don’t even get to choose while relays you pull from, so the person could just set their relays to ones that don’t delete things.

This is also why I am skeptical of censorship resistant media protocols. Sounds like a great way to empower pedos.

What I would like to see is a protocol i can implement to report things to media hosts

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SwBratcher 11mo ago

Is there a relay query that echos its configs so you can choose relays based on settings?

jb55 11mo ago

We’re moving to a more decentralized model where users don’t choose relays since that doesn’t scale

Vivi Nella Verita 11mo ago

How does the outbox model even choose the relays then?

Is there redundancy in case a relay goes down?

Will clients even be in sync? I imagine global is worse off not showing everything

jb55 11mo ago

the way i would prefer it is use nip05 relays to get their relays, if they have no nip05 try your best based on popular bootstrap relays. Once you have their relays you know where a particular user reads from and writes to. So when sending them a note or replying to them you select their read relays. When reading their notes you pull from the relays they are writing too. Pretty straightforward.

SwBratcher 11mo ago

Gotcha. I bounce around and use all sorts of clients right now to feel out how various features are being implemented. I’m not client committed.

What if I just want to push to my own relay but want to use a good client I found?

Would client selected relays start segmenting the landscape of users?

Client influenced segmentations of communities isn’t ideal if I want unlimited reach and exposure to varied content. Is that the eventual result if my client chooses relays for me without my input?

Or any I missing something?

jb55 11mo ago

The point is that you should be able to set any relay you want and clients should be smart enough to pull from the right relays. Outbox reduces segmentation. It would be transparent.

Users are segmented on clients that strictly follow a users relay list (like damus ios atm)

SwBratcher 11mo ago

Thanks for the clarification. 🤙

SwBratcher 11mo ago

When I first showed up I thought I’d be able to run my own relay and broadcast to that for my content to be found there, archived there, and just self hosted. But most clients won’t even respect my ws://[address].onion relay address.