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Then what would fixing the problem look like?

Armies? Brown coats? You are speaking like a sheep that can’t tell the difference between a sheepdog and a wolf because they both have teeth.

Yes, I am aware of the “raise fear then crack down” strategy. They have been pulling it to get rid of 2A protections for about 100 years now.

That being said, accountability is going to look the exact same: brutal force against perpetrators. This “don’t do anything because it will be used against you” while you are already getting beaten to death is ridiculous.

“Yes, he’s beating your skull in, but don’t draw your knife or gun to stop him. Don’t you know that he could disarm you and use it against you?”

Yes he could. He could also kill me just by continuing to beat me with his bare hands. By drawing the weapon, at least I have given myself a chance and presented a threat that he is forced to respect or FAFO.

Peak “bigger man syndrome” here and the a perfect example of why libertarianism and boomer conservatives accomplish nothing offline.

Sarah 4mo ago 💬 1

To accomplish what you want to accomplish will require taking a neo-fascist approach. You're not ready for the discussion of suspending freedom and democracy in favor of a new wave of authoritarianism required to undo generations of damage done to this nation.

It's going to go deeper than just nationalizing DC and arresting those pesky Democrats. It's going to require forcibly removing people from positions of power and forcibly removing certain races of citizens out of the country. It will not be accomplished under your "muh constitution". You need to be prepared to go to the right of the National Socialists of Germany.

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Josephus 4mo ago 💬 1

First off, thank you for ACTUALLY addressing my point rather than just calling me a black/gay/jew/fed for no reason.

I agree with you about the concerns of “what happens when the shoe is on the other foot?” And “a race to the bottom”. That being said, I’ve long said that the north (or at least the NYC and LA influence zones) needs a reconstruction in the same way and for the same reasons that the south needed it. I have been having the discussion for a long time now. But I agree with you that it is not so simple as “just kill them all and do good”.

Whatever movement ends up taking these steps needs to be based on sound founding philosophical principles. The difference between the American and French revolutions was entirely because of the founding principles of the revolutionaries involved. The right needs to have equal parts glorious revolutionary as it does agorist independent soul to succeed in end and not end up like france right back into a despot monarchy in under a generation.

And I have been laying out some of the steps myself. For example, limits on the voting franchise, an amendment against government-corporate collusion, etc. Heinlen and rand are major inspirations for what I have in mind, with some others, for sure.