#privacytechpro tip: learn how to use bitcoin privately. it can be done, but you have to learn how. the way most people use bitcoin is not private at all. all bitcoin transactions by default are public, traceable, and permanently stored on the blockchain. your actions when using bitcoin determine how much personal information about you is revealed.

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in my opinion, the private purchase is still the biggest issue

and utxo management

The problem is, without cash, an anonymous purchase is almost impossible. Revolut (full kyc) SEPA (full kyc) PayPal (full kyc) โ€ฆ.

you can try Relai. You need a credit card or a bank transfer for payment. it is based i Switzerland. Sure it's not perfect, but at least they do not ask for a medical checkup before allowing you to buy. Take care

with my comment I was referring more to p2p payment methods used on services like bisq, robosats, peach, hodlhodl ....

Nothing wrong with using Relai

apps should support beginners with utxo management ๐Ÿค“

Peer to peer in person at meetups...๐Ÿ˜„

Development of better, reasonable fee, automated escrow services...๐Ÿ˜„

Direct purchase from miners...๐Ÿ˜„

Circular local economies...๐Ÿ˜„

All of the above designed for "privacy" as in, "cut out the thieving state middleman" while not leaking any information that would expose anyone to damnable state "laws" designed to control and rob us.๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿคฌ

nostr:npub1f6ugxyxkknket3kkdgu4k0fu74vmshawermkj8d06sz6jts9t4kslazcka thx for your tips. How would you go about learning how to use btc privately?

Right, and there's always mining to get new bitcoin free of kyc, etc. Several marketplaces for hashrate to mine with - Nicehash, Rigly, Mining Rig Rentals

Please teach us.๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

Write up the detailed "how to" series, or point us to the guidance we need...

Also, suggest and discuss whether it's possible and what it will take to develop complete systems that even unsophisticated normies could use.๐Ÿคจ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜„

Thank you.๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿซ‚๐Ÿ˜„

As an unsophisticated normie I second this.

Bitcoin privacy indeed doesnt happen over night. Ive been working on it for sometime and have yet to execute on any actions. Its starts and stoos a few hours late at night here and there.

Setting up a node, electrum server, tor, wallets, firewall, this stuff takes time.

I tell myself once its live itll be scaleable for my own purposes but even that is not likely true. Monitoring software updates, changes in protocols, not for the faint of heart.

And so many will choose the easy way. Tempting but not me.

Like a farmer, the best way to enjoy your land is to work it.

it is. i trust myself to use btc privately but it's not easy, everything must be done just right. most people buy kyc coin fromexchanges, use it on-chain in a non-private way and shoot themselves in the foot, exposing themselves on a permanent record (the blockchain). fiat would be more private. bitcoin is an awesome store of value, but the way most people use it is not "freedom money" or "private".

it's disturbing how many people hear these buzzwords and get into bitcoin in a non-privacy preserving way.

i love bitcoin, and i encourage people to learn how to use it in a private way, but it's a privacy nightmare by default.

monero on the other hand is privacy at a protocol level. you get the same privacy guarantees no matter which wallet you use.

Well said on monero ive been observing monery and the community for a bit, but really started taking it seriously when I heard the size of coinjoin fees. Then your posts lately have encouraged me to explore my own thoughts on it. Also its the most liquid pair on Bisq which is encouraging.

On bitcoin privacy ive been sitting with utxos not doing a damn thing for six months. Im sure there are plebs who could breeze through this stuff faster but its taking me to the studs in understanding what goes into trust but verify and privacy. Its no joke.

Usage wise, Wasabi is pretty easy.

Understanding why it protects you against numerous threat vectors is more difficult.

Checkout docs.wasabiwallet.io and coinjoins.org for more info.

I stopped reading at "Get .NET 8.0 SDK: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download"

And I guess I missed the memo that the .NET SDK and runtime are now proper Free Software. TIL https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/blob/main/LICENSE.TXT and https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/blob/main/LICENSE.TXT

So I guess it's OK? Kind of?

But that's only one client, right? Nothing against CoinJoins.

Its been a frustrating morning. Ive been trying to connect sparrow wallet to my electrum server over tor so i can do my first coinjoin.

Well damn it finally successfully connected, blockchain loaded, then the connection failed and im back to SOCKS server general failures. Maddening.

It can be quite easy with WasabiWallet.io receive, wait and spend, all the privacy is taken care of by default.