Replying to Avatar Guy Swann

Debt based money and privacy cannot coexist.

You can't issue unsustainable debt without vetting borrowers on a deeper and deeper level. Credit based money is inextricably tied to ever more invasive surveillance.

"Surveillance capitalism" and debt based money are the same thing.
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Vector5 3mo ago

Yes, issuers of debt have to know who owes them money and where the borrowed money is spent.

If you borrow money, those who lend to you literally own you.

Money is created by lending it. You have to pay it back with interest, but the interest is never created. The interest does not exist. Diabolical indeed.

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Zsubmariner 3mo ago

And don't forget that debt money, at a government level, requires heavy taxation and all the surveillance and enforcement that entails