Nostr Web Client

Well the only reason I believe it could work is that I was willing to front load the cost myself. The idea is a slow process (im not in a rush for cash) and I already have _most_ of the infra for my other work, just not at a very large scale.

I'm not saying cloudflare specifically is the issue, in this case though they're the largest and fully block websites/applications. If a cdn wants to block media because they don't like my IP address fine, but when 1/20 results on a search engine I can't see because they use Cloudflare or Vercel, something has to change.

semisol 2mo ago 💬 2

That sounds like a good plan but I do not expect it to be self-sustaining at all or to be funded by grant orgs unfortunately due to how this works.

We need more CF alternatives.

The problem is on Nostr people expect things for free and complain about ads, which makes it unreasonably expensive (relative to income) to use other solutions, and none of the big grant orgs are willing to provide enough funding to get a CF-free alternative off the ground. "Just enough" to make it work.

At the same time, CF can subsidize smaller customers which may become larger enterprise customers, and can work on massive economies of scale.

(On Nostr.land there is no CF except for DNS (registration was done there but will move out), and on Nostr.build everything except media serving is not through CF)

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semisol 2mo ago

(I should probably mention Nostr.land event cannon uses CF Workers, but the main reason is that it is not a sensitive workload and it makes it easier to deal with improper relay rate limiting schemes.)

ChipTuner 2mo ago

Mind you I'm also a huge hypocrite in this scenario for the same reasons. I've used some very shitty registrars and domains started getting unaffordable and CF was the only provider I've worked with that offered stable costs. I got sick of spending 100s/year on registration and migrations and privacy and other service fees. Then also still needing a DNS provider and paying 100s/year for an actually commercial service as well. CF has been the most professional to work with and get support from. Now I only use them for registration and DNS as well.

That said, yeah DNS and domain registration is also hard... possibly even harder than this discussion.