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No.

Ask them, many people saw in real time that happening.

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Can you confirm what im saying about Ralf and Onyx being shadowbanned on primal on the beggining, or i am telling a lie?

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Find that commit in their repo.

https://github.com/PrimalHQ/primal-server

I don't give a fuck to what they have on there repo, i was here when censorship on Primal happened, i saw that with my fucking eyes, and i wasnt the only one that saw that..

That shadowbanning definition was cringe. No one took it seriously. Including the guys who were "impacted" by it.

As I recall the story:

1) Primal comes out with a primitive Trending algo (v1) to offer new ways for Discovery on nostr

2) Semisol & Ralf find way to game it. And they game it ad absurdum. Effectivel trolling and taking a piss at Primal's first attempt at Discovery service.

3) Primal manually excludes them from the Trending eligibility. (~ primitive v2l

4) Semisol & Ralf start screaming "shadowbanning".

5) More people start screaming.

6) Primal publicly confirms "Yes, we've manually excluded them".

I'm not a developer and I'm not very technical with how all the moving parts work. What I know is mostly from my own experience. I was here from the beginning, and I remember how it was. Things barely worked at all. Censorship is, to a large extent, part of the fuel that feeds all of our passion for building on and using Nostr. Not only do I disagree that nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr was shadow-banning anyone, I doubt there was tech available to do that in a Nostr environment (if it can even be done at all), and he certainly wouldn't have wasted his time singling people out with so many far more important things to work on. Sorry, that bucket doesn't hold water on any level. These kinds of accusations being thrown around makes Nostr weaker, not stronger; makes you less credible and the developers you support less likeable. Something was obviously broken - like a relay that was hosting their content, or one of many other things - than from anything nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr would have done on his own. Please be thoughtful and cautious with accusations. I don't see any devils running around in this space. Let's not create any. Okay? 🤝

It was manually done, not something broke, ask everyone who was here what happened and you'll find out.

#freeralf

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