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I’ve been devoting some thought to the idea that gangs of thugs require semi automatic pistols with multiple magazines for self defense scenario. While I recognize that some people may live in a circumstance that necessitates these preparations, a large caliber powerful revolver is all I am willing to carry for self defense, for a number of defensible reasons. There are some scenarios, simply put where you may find yourself, surrounded, outgunned, and frankly fucked no matter what you do. I think this is an important piece of cognitive floss for anyone who chooses to carry, as an illusion of grandeur is not only dangerous to yourself, but also those around you. You may afford yourself the opportunity to stop a terrible tragedy in progress by issuing a few well placed shots, you may die in the process of doing so, but in any case a response with a gun is rarely justified without shots fired by the assailant, and a shot or two is all you are likely to get. The acid test for involving your firearm should be, is there a case where I could be wrong in my assessment of this circumstance? Shots fired in a public place? Not likely. Otherwise, play it cool, act like a victim and try to escape without being a hero or an unwitting villain. #gunstr #selfdefense #firearm

The Beave 2y ago

I wasn't going to respond until you ended with "safety first."

I believe that is incorrect. Safety is so far down my list of concerns when I carry, especially with a modern striker-fired pistol with 2x-3x the capacity of your revolver.

I carry either in my pocket (in a sticky holster) or appendix with a round in the chamber. There is no other sensible way to carry (some can argue for different carry positions and that's fine). I have no fear of any unintentional discharge. I have no fear of my own self pulling the trigger when I am not sure of what I am doing. In those situations where I will consider drawing (descalation and escaping are better options if possible) my pistol, safety is not my primary concern. Nor should it be for anyone else. Determine your target, draw, aim, squeeze, and keep firing until the threat or threats are terminated.

The rate of multiple attackers going after people is rising very quickly. The rates of manufacturing issues with ammunition are also going up, as the demand is still elevated. Being able to quickly clear a fault, drop a mag, slap in a new one, is worth not having a revolver by itself.

There are many semi-auto pistols on the market that have built in muzzle standoffs, or just adding a pistol light can also achieve the same thing, plus you'll also have a light to help ID a target.

Anyway... Revolvers are cool. They are great if you're trying to assassinate someone and not leave any casings behind. But they have been outmoded for over a century.

Also, focusing too much of "safety" is not a good mindset to have. It can greatly increase your response time when fractions of a second may count.

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Jac 2y ago

You have more training than the vast majority of concealed carry folks. I can respect the trade off in safety you choose to embrace, though I still think that you perceive yourself as a vigilante or entitled enforcement entity rather than a defensive citizen. Lights in general just aid the enemy in knowing where to point the rifle barrage that is likely coming in response to your shot or two. With a revolver there is no clearing a defective round, just click and move on. This is not as much a discussion on equipment as it is a discussion on the perceived role of the citizen defender. The nuance is important.

The Beave 2y ago

I'm not a vigilante, but, I'm also not going to shy away from danger. I carry to protect. If I need to, I will do by best to put down anyone who is doing or attempting to do harm to myself, my family, or in certain circumstances, my property.

In most cases, there are no rifles. If there is little doubt of not than one attacker, a proper light is a force multiplier. And I get to choose to use it or not, depending on the circumstances.

I try to think ahead and think this through so if something happens, there's less active thinking. I flip through my already determined check list, and can very quickly decide if it's flight or fight.

Jac 2y ago

Solid. I’d be happy to share a public forum with a person like you, however I do think there are many who are misguided and pose a threat to themselves and others with good intentions and bad practices.

The Beave 2y ago

Yes. For sure. But I'm still glad to set more people taking on the responsibility of being their own first responder.

Jac 2y ago

I would rather everyone have a .22Lr pistol confidently carried than something dangerous, unsafely and unmanageably carried.

The Beave 2y ago

Maybe.