Nostr Web Client

The LightingTipBot is really the Bitcoin/Nostr onboarding way:

1) Join the bot https://t.me/LightningTipBot to immediately obtain a (custodial) LN wallet with a LN that match your username (xxx@ln.tips) and an anonymous one useful if you don't want dox yourself; put it in you Nostr profile.

2) Use the "/nostr add" command to link your pubkey and start to register the zaps attached to every post; the bot also notifies every zap with the sender message.

3) Use the "/link" command to get the private lndhub URL; with this you can configure Alby (browser extension) and Bluewallet (Android/IOS/macOS) to have a unique wallet across all devices for an integrated experience.

4) Zap and receive zaps ⚡ and start to think the bitcoin v4v way; if you are a creator you have huge opportunities.

5) Bonus point: tip friends on Telegram and propose them to embrace Bitcoin/Nostr.

Objections:

Why use a Telegram bot instead of go all-in with Nostr?

Simply because a similar bot doesn't still exist for Nostr, even if I'm quite sure #[0] is working on something 👀

Then Telegram attracts people that already realize that there are a lot of possibilities, and quality ones, outside the small fake-golden Meta garden, so it is a perfect place to onboard new aware users.

Plus the bot and lndhub are open source.

Why a custodial wallet?

Today custodial LN is quite hard to start, we have great projects like OBW and Blixt that already permit it, but it's an harder step for a newcomer. To experience the coffee-zapb magic a custodial solution is reasonable. Don't let the perfection kill the excellency.

Shout-out to #[1] to have built it! 🙌⚡

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Discussion

System Agent 2y ago

Why not WoS if custodial. No account required.

daniele 2y ago

For me WoS has the limit to not be usable on desktop.

Than I prefer to support open source projects and Calle ones are exceptional.

Choose what you feel better :)

System Agent 2y ago

Yeah valid point.

yunginter.net 2y ago

Great write up, I would add, onboarding to nostr is not trivial, showing someone zaps is a cool feature, if they already have cash app installed they have a way to procure bitcoin, and if they already have telegram installed they have a way to receive proper zaps. I also hate non fin-apps with built in wallets, specially autogenerated, it feels forced upon the user even if it’s entirely in good faith and no different than any separate custodial wallet. The thing a new person should ponder is nostr, there are plenty of opportunities to deep dive and naturally pick up self custody through being here.

tohrxyz 2y ago

the fact that it is on that russian spyware app telegram is a big fat no no

daniele 2y ago

If Russia is interested in your coffee tips you should be a really important person, so you surely have the motivation and the resources to go non custodial :)

When you have a minute please prove "the fact", thanks!

tohrxyz 2y ago

the fact being that the only encryption on telegram is https and on their servers

“you dont need e2ee bcs u aint important” isnt really great point to debate

daniele 2y ago

https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple

As said at the end of my post: don't let the perfection kill the excellency.

If you and you friends are comfortable with a full non custodial path that's wonderful. Please share the details after the Telegram critic so everyone can learn and choose.

A personal view: I chose to use the proposed solution to support Calle's work and to have a separate easy wallet for tips/zaps so I don't flood the main one history.

José 2y ago

I was trying to set this up but I am not sure I did it the right way. Would the bot give any feedback in step 2 after s being ‘/nostr pubkey’?

daniele 2y ago

/nostr add npub1xxxxxxx...

^^^^^^^^

José 2y ago

Ok, I see. Somehow I was doing it without the ‘add’. I will try this way

daniele 2y ago

My bad, I forgot to mention that on mobile you also have #[1], for IOS and Android: another open source great option that integrate with LightningTipBot via Lndhub.

daniele 2y ago

Ops, add an LN address otherwise users cannot zap you!

Suggestion:

#[2]

Jack K 2y ago

#[4]