you're proving my point
That would be intellectually inconsistent except I never complained about zk proofs. I don’t even know what that is lmao all I’ve said so far is that I’ve seen my tx inputs and outputs balance out. I have firsthand experience of supply soundness in Bitcoin with my transactions. Anyone could also just do a simple sum of all the addresses in bitcoin at any time. I can’t do that with monero. There is no need to check every single transaction when you can just sum the total supply at any given moment.
So nostr:npub1wamvxt2tr50ghu4fdw47ksadnt0p277nv0vfhplmv0n0z3243zyq26u3l2 is not technically wrong when he says that monero zero proofs or whatever requires you to trust that it works. And you can argue that other cryptographic properties in bitcoin require trust too. And that’s correct but that trust is not built on my understanding of complex software. It’s built on time and actual firsthand experience. I understand how they work and trust it because it has earned my trust. No amount of firsthand experience can change the supply soundness flaw in monero. And average sheeple are not going to magically start giving a shit about their privacy anytime soon. So I’ll take the supply soundness and practice privacy using tools like pay join and ecash.
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Moving the goalposts.
Neither you nor monero devs can guarantee supply soundness. That makes monero a shitcoin HFSP 🫡
By the EXACT same logic
you cant trust ECDSA to ensure that only your private keys can spend your utxos.
But you do.
Your whole argument is just
"I trust Team Bitcoin when they say ECDSA is secure.
But I don't trust Team Monero when they say range proofs are secure.
I don't DYOR.
I don't verify.
I just follow the prevalent groupthink of the team I like."
Frankly, you're a sorryass Bitcoiner.
WRONG.
I trust that private keys work because I’ve literally used them to spend. But you keep moving the goalposts lmao prove that the monero supply is sound first.
Frankly you can HFSP 🫡
lol ok
You have no evidence your private key is the only key that can spend a utxo.
This property of bitcoin depends on the ECDSA encryption it uses being mathematically sound and the implementation being correctly coded
YOU *TRUST* THE BITCOIN COMMUNITY WHEN THEY TELL YOU THIS IS SO.
YOU ARE ALREADY RELYING ON CRYPTOGRAPHIC PRIMITIVES YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.
YOU JUST REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT.
Do you have any evidence that a different private key can spend my utxos? All you’re doing is talking in abstract theoretical “what ifs.” But it’s just unproductive mental masturbation.
Provide evidence that monero’s supply is sound. If you can’t, then that is the main reason why bitcoin is winning against monero. Adding zero proofs or whatever you call it to bitcoin would jeopardize supply soundness.
if you dont have the ability to actually reflect on your fundamental assumptions you are a waste of time.
point is
you demand proof from me,
but trust other "maxis."
WITHOUT understanding or DYOR on *either* of the cryptographic primitives involved.
it is intellectually inconsistent and you arent a cypherpunk or a true bitcoiner.
just a team player unwilling to make the effort of critical thinking.
have a nice day.