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one of the philosophical bases of #golang is to minimise choices how to do things, that's why there's no macro language or preprocessor, and why there is one standard formatter (there is some flexibility on breaking lines but not in numerous circumstances... the principle is about reducing decision overload and readability

too many languages pander to people's "preferences"

same as like sex... should be only one choice - THE OPPOSITE lol.. and only in marriage - see how that works?

MichaelJ 1y ago

I love how you bring it all back to #golang 😆

I believe St. Pope John Paul III defined true liberty as being free to do what is right. That is different from freedom to do what we please, and may actually entail us giving up certain options.

The real question, and this may be the crux of the "fourth turning" the article discussed, is "freedom for what?"

For example, freedom of speech is specifically meant as freedom to speak against the government, so as to pursue the common good in a democratic republic. If we can say whatever we want but have no actual voice in government, that freedom is neutered.

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

i bring it back to Go because they designed it right from 40 years of experience running dev projects, unlike all the rest of these idiots that did 5 years and love to pander to irrelevant obsessions

hell, i remember C++ coming out when i was 15 and i thought it seemed cool with those pipe operators and honestly, nobody uses them, but you look at the code and it's so overflowing with excessive descriptive object specs and template this and fuck off... man, i remember dealing with boost back in the day... zero guarantees that different minor versions would even compile... 1.58, not 1.59, or death!

objects are shit, they just make slow compilation and confusing notation, static analysis doesn't work and the compiler uses 12gb of memory to compile. fuck that

MichaelJ 1y ago

Hey, watch it, I'm working on a C++ project right now! 🤣

I definitely see the complexity you're referring to. However, I wanted to learn C++ better, and I've found it a valuable experience so far.

Maybe next I'll do everything in C lol.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

lol, C is almost as bad, at least, the way people write it, fuckin unreadable, and it always seems like everything is declared at least 3 times, like, why????

C is static typed, yeah, there's 4 types of ints, two types of floats, strings that are stupid zero terminated, memory is not typed, really, you can simply say it is whatever you like, and then clobber it at will

insane language, 50 years old, come on man

i bring it back to #golang because it's the most cleanly designed, elegant, simple, easy to read, and sensible language that exists, and it doesn't pander to stupid nonsense obsessions about objects or aspects or "run everywhere" (it does anyway) or dynamic linking or functional, or objects, fuck objects, composition > inheritance... use short, concise names, don't write fucking war and peace in your fucking symbol names

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

also, freedom of speech is important because if you are ruled by or surrounded by narcissistic psychopaths they dictate what you should believe and that's a red flag

for the most part you don't really want to even say anything but some of us are chatterboxes and want to report every thought that passed through our little pea brains, and sometimes it's actually useful, because something really caught our curiosity and turned out to be important, and that's another thing that it's good for

it should never be a crime to say something dumb, but to lie and manipulate and make threats and do all that psychotic manipulation shit

yeah, those bitches can go back outside the walls of the compound see you later

MichaelJ 1y ago

You can't legislate against social pressure, is the thing. Civil liberty is necessary to protect us from the government, but you may have all sorts of restrictions on speech that are self-imposed or enforced by social pressure from family or from peers.

This goes back to "Freedom for what?"

We have to be free to say what we ought, even and especially when that is a harsh truth that the government doesn't want others to hear.

Niel Liesmons 1y ago

Wen "Golang Popes" community?

I need more of whatever this niche is 🔥

MichaelJ 1y ago

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Niel Liesmons 1y ago

I'm gonna nickname him like that in my Nostr contacts 😢

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

apostle to Saint Rob Pike, the Newsqueak and Plan 9 and Go dude