Besides https://nostr.watch, what other resources are there to help users choose relays? nostr:note1vh3zlhz0lqazqla4yc60d9a7r6deghhhy3qm70nqgdmm0gxuqpcqvnd5w6

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The best, paid relay? How about Twitter?

I think you're missing the point of Nostr.

Are you suggesting the point of nostr is that it’s free? To me the point is data ownership and censorship resistance.

Nostr can be whatever you want it to be though :)

No sir , Nostr Protocol is Freedom… yu can host ur data by running ur relay.. Many Informations till Nostr r censored n blocked the reach … Nostr Protocol is way better for now till more advanced techs…

No - if there was a "best relay" that implies that most users would want to join this relay. Nostr is - in theory - censorship resistant, because there's no "best relay".

“Best” is defined differently by users which is why having more information about individual relays is useful. There will always be bigger relays that users gravitate too, even with a successful gossip model.

It’s censorship resistant because the data is replicated, portable, openly accessible, and self signed.

So wouldn't you agree, that it would better, if users don't have to pick a relay? Because if properly implemented (protocol), it shouldn't make a difference?

What you're describing sounds like a Matrix / Mastodon problem.

In fact, if you give users the choice, it does exactly what you're describing

> bigger relays that users gravitate

Isn't that the opposite, of what we're trying to achieve?

I see many beginners having doubts about which relay to choose and sometimes choosing 88 relays, which I think is unnecessary. Perhaps a ranking of the most popular updated from time to time would help.

I had to dig to find it on my adventures. 🤙

I had started work on this at https://nostr.info/relays/ but nostr.watch is the best as far as I can see.

All fail to lead users to the right choice of relays which nobody knows how to determine so far. If the gossip model is to prevail, everybody should get on 3 or 4 relays with the client pulling from dozens if needed.

Paid or not paid is so far a very irrelevant criteria as no relay has a sustainable business model or anything suggesting they would be around in a year from now.

And also there is so far no client that checks for my events being stored on multiple relays. I want to know when my events are down to one or two relays to take action and mirror them to a new relay.