How about the precedence that BSV set by opening up op return code? The network was hammered when they did this. To me that is a legitimate concern, and I question why developers would take the same path. The blast radius from a $500 million network will pale in comparison to a $2 trillion+ network.

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BSV was successful hammered because they forked away from bitcoin, not because of some specific attack surface. Questioning why they chose the code changes is fine. They’ve answered why they did it and not liking their answer does not equal shoving down your throat.

So you’re saying BSV wasn’t flooded with spam after op return change to 100000 bytes?

No, I’m saying BSV was a shitcoin and that’s why it lost value. All the value moved back to Bitcoin and other altcoins. The spam is not what made it lose value and it is in no way a model of what will happen to Bitcoin.

Ok, so you acknowledge that there was a large increase in spam after the op return change and you’re ok with that potentially happening on the bitcoin network is what I think you’re saying. I never mentioned BSV’s value.

I am not worried about the increase in OP-RURTURN default size. Block size has a hard cap and fees are the filter that forces the determination of what people value enough to put in transactions. For a while I might consider a bunch of that as spam but I’m confident over time monetary use of bitcoin is what humanity will value most.

I’d rather not risk 95% of my wealth on someone’s faith in humanity when we have slavery, human trafficking, child sexual exploitation, etc. The code can enforce the monetary use without financial censorship. That is exactly what it should do. If someone wants data storage, set up your storage and fucking own it!

There’s no faith in humanity, there are obvious incentives if you have solid secure code. You want people who can do what you can’t to change their engineering decisions based on your feels. Good luck with your chain split🙄

“I’m confident over time monetary use of bitcoin is what humanity will value most.”

“There’s no faith in humanity.”

Which is it? Rhetorical question. No need for an answer because it’s irrelevant to me.

Started development at 11 years old in 1981. Have an engineering degree. Developed large scalable applications for major corporations. Have not taken the dive into bitcoin code and would need to ramp up again on C++, but you know my capabilities. What you think you know from assumptions only and what you say reeks of stupidity and arrogance. Good luck.

Nice resume yet you think Core is shoving code down people’s throat, ok.

I think the incentives of Bitcoin will cause both the kind and evil people to choose Bitcoin as their money. People using it for other than monetary means will be pushed out. If you think that means faith in humanity so be it. I don’t assume to know anything about you other than what you write and that you seem to think people who disagree with you are arrogant. Welcome to nostr btw, happy to have you here whether you like me or not.

that was a nice conversation to follow!

Personally what I have a problem with is the increase from 80 to 100'000 bytes, as the rationale for this was "we will have to increase it anyway probably in the future, so let's just be done with it now". This doesn't seem like a prudent approach to me.

I think limiting OP-return to 10k (or something like that) would put this whole debate to sleep at this point