If you notice carefully what he is saying (brian) isyhat the future is permissioned "crypto" aka fintech apis. There is nothing permissionless about base or usdc, everything is one "compliance" mishap away from siezure.

I'm sure the same will happen with Trump, the state can never support a medium of exchange they cant control because it might make people think why they have let the tyrany go on for so long.

We have to free commerce from their shackles.