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Is anyone in 2023 brave enough to admit that they were/are pro masking children?

I have friends who literally put their daughter in a cardboard box (in the car on a trip) while she had covid. And the mom now has aggressive breast cancer (probably because of the many boosters she got) 😔 I'm not sure they'll ever really wake up, the cost of doing so would be very heavy. It's also kinda hard to pretend you weren't in favor of masking kids when you posted shit like that all over social media.

Another friend posted pics of her kids masked in their bathing suits at the river. Risk of waterboarding themselves was not as concerning as covid apparently.

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BitcoinSandy 2y ago

So many people I know have had recurring infections / shingles / fatigue since jabs

BitcoinSandy 2y ago

Plus aggressive cancers out of seemingly nowhere are all around. A friend died after a sudden onset stage 4 stomach cancer / twice jabbed and felt it was the cause

Martialis 2y ago

This is why there will never be a reckoning for the covid era - most people will never be unable to face up to what they became during that time. As you say, the cost of self-awareness would be simply too high.

HODL 2y ago

A woman up the street from us had a baby at the same time we did. Our family was always out and about in the neighborhood. Baby in tow, usually being worn by mom. No masks, no shots etc… their family holed up in their house. Were deathly afraid of everything. No socializing etc… both kids are 3 now and it’s night and day different in terms of developmental health. I feel bad for that kid. They did him dirty. The craziest thing was that she spent the majority of the pandemic judging us for being cavalier about the whole thing.

TKay 2y ago

In industrial engineering/quality control there is a concept called Alpha Errors vs Beta Errors.

Alpha errors is when you make a mistake that prevents something good from happening.

Beta Errors is when you make a mistake by allowing something bad to happen.

Alpha Errors > Beta Errors.

That’s basically the entire approach to the pandemic until we started to learn more and understand more about it.

You can’t judge people now looking back.

They were working on at the Alpha, you skipped alpha and went and risked a beta error.

You both are not the same.

HODL 2y ago

That’s great for industrial design, in public health terms there was almost no risk to young people.

J 2y ago

Yeah.. saying sorry I beta error fucked up my kid doesn’t really cut it, does it.

TKay 2y ago

They are both errors. It was difficult to know what’s right and what’s wrong at the time.

The idea at the time was not to protect the kids, it was to protect everyone from kids carrying it…. and others the same.

Some people went overboard.

Personally, our family tried to stay in the middle as much as possible. We turned out fine, and none of us got Covid.

HODL 2y ago

That idea was stupid and people that forced masks on children should be ashamed.

Jeff Swann 2y ago

Nah, it was obviously a scam from the start, & being outside is always better for health than being cooped up inside. There was no real risk.

A lot of people just stopped thinking. Some really feared the virus, but most feared social reprecussions & feared seeing the implications of their govt lying to them.

Facing the fact that you are being lied to by the biggest & most powerful organization you know of is actually the scariest thing for a lot of people. They will go along with a lot of irrationality to avoid facing that sort of fear. The govt is their protector & their God, realizing it's evil destroys everything about their view of the world including their idea of the sort of person they are.

TKay 2y ago

As I said. Both are errors.

Jeff Swann 2y ago

It's not an error when someone could see what was going on & then was proven absolutely right. That's the opposite of making an error actually.

This is that same shit that the Dilbert asshole did, you don't get to pretend you weren't wrong by saying "no one could have known." Many of us knew. Fix your model of the world so that you will know next time too.

Truth & understanding are discovered when people are free to discover them (when they can ask questions & do what they think is right). The sort of people who want to destroy that freedom (censor people & keep them trapped & force them all down the same path) are always the sort of people that are wrong & don't want to be found out. Stop trusting & listening to those people.

burns 2y ago

When you understand incentives, realize that power corrupts, and that you can only fully trust yourself, you see things for what they are. Unfortunately most people are still too trusting and prefer to delegate responsibility and thinking too others.

HomelessG 2y ago

So the people who lost loved ones and acted based on that very real situation are burying their head in the sand? You act as if people weren’t dying

TKay 2y ago

Well my dad, rest his soul in peace disagrees with you.

Jeff Swann 2y ago

Idk what the circumstances were, but I know that hospital treatments were killing people. Remdesivir was previously discontinued for causing kidney failure & it was the primary Covid treatment. I have a nurse friend who just stopped putting it in her IVs & all of her patients stopped dying.

Doctors were getting paid to prescribe it, & hospitals were getting paid when patients died.

TKay 2y ago

Exactly. That’s why it was better not to get to the point where anyone needed a Hospital. But many didn’t share the concern.

And you are assuming he was in the US. He didn’t have the luxury of the American health care. Things were way worse where he lived.

Anyway. I don’t like to look back at those times. It brings back so much hurt and anger. Everyone made their choices and here we are now.

Jeff Swann 2y ago

Ivermectin is cheap & safe enough that if not for the corruption could have been taken daily as a preventative to reduce the viral load in anyone with any sort of additional risk factors. Staying cooped up inside & wearing masks doesn't prevent anything. If all social gatherings were outside & no one had worn masks the results would have been better. The places with mask mandates across the board seem to have a slightly higher occurance of respiratory issues because breathing through a bacteria laden cloth all day isn't good for anyone.

NurseWang 2y ago

This is true. Doctors, Like Peter McCullough, we're treating patients with over the counter meds and old, cheap, off-patent drugs which have been safe for decades, and the government elite squashed that in preference of new, untested, and unsafe meds. The GOAL was suppression of effective, safe, cheap meds in favor of Pharmaceutical profits.

There were multiple RTC prior to this pandemic that showed masks don't work to control the spread of viral flu-like diseases. The masks were unnecessary and should have remained optional. There are still many children in my state being forced by their virtue-signalling parents to wear masks in public.

Everything about the treatment of Covid was geared to how profits could be maximized by the Gov and pharmaceutical companies.

My hospital was giving out $100 dollar gift cards to children under the age of 12 just before Christmas at the local mall as part of a grant from the State. This was long after it became clear that the Jab was causing cardiomyopathy in young children.

It is, and was, all about the money.

Drew F 2y ago

Put that woman into the 17 hundreds and she would have been letting the Salem witch trials be her entertainment.

nobody 2y ago

Wanna know what’s really scary? The speed at which the sheep are going to accept a CBDC swap of their fiat balance and the adoption of a digital leash ID/wallet given how mindlessly they accepted all of the Covid measures.

MPH 2y ago

It's easier to fool a man than to convince him hes been fooled