lightning users are so used to using custodial wallets that sidechain multisig is self custodial now

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Yeah you’re trusting about 15 liquid federation operators

I understand that using it…but do others? Good question. Using self-custody to describe liquid could be tricky.

Hey, do you consider having cash in your wallet custodial? If not, what's the distinction from Liquid?

“Cash” held in Liquid’s wallet is not self custody.

Cash in MY wallet is self custody.

Oh really, what's the difference?

A “wallet” is actually a private key

If you’re using someone else wallet, only they can sign transactions to move funds because they hold the private key.

If you use a self custody wallet it means you hold the private key and you control any movement of funds.

Lol, yes, I know what a private key is. You hold your own private keys on Liquid. So, there's not really a point being made here.

The issuing authority and the payment infrastructure is the Liquid Maintainer's "custody."

The LiquidBTC is full yours just like cash in your wallet. The difference is the federated group can't print more LBTC without collateral (unlike the federal reserve)