I'm wondering if I could have that, or if I need to grow till frost and harvest, then store until fully ripe. One guy I was listening to said you pick them at 8 brix, then allow to ripen off the vine. I just don't get the stuff I have seen that it needs like 5.5 months to ripen on the vine.

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Idk but I’d say it’s worth you trying. My vines grew over 4ft just this year, they’re vigorous here. I’ve heard of people growing them in Alaska