Okay I’ve asked a lot of philosophical questions and we had to get here at some point.
Is Batman the mask, or is Bruce Wayne?
Discussion
I think Bruce Wayne is his mask
Or is that what Bruce Wayne wants to believe? Escapism?
When Batman "must be" Bruce Wayne, he has to behave different. I think Batman is his real Charakter.
It's like when I have to go to the FIAT-Mines 😅
“Give a man a mask and they’ll show you who they really are”
Hmmm
Does that mean all nostriches are only their true characters on nostr and their other SM identities are fake?
I think all Nostriches are real not only on nostr. There is the closest circle of friends, meetups, etc. BUT I firmly believe that Bitcoiners, for example, often wear a mask in "normal" society because this "normal" society is actually not normal for us.
And of course ... Thx for the Zap 🫵💜🫂🤗
I think it goes much deeper than that. We all often wear masks. We plan our behavior for certain actions. When we buy a car, or when we want a raise (for example), we behave in a way that is different from our natural instincts.
We behave how we must, not how much they want to.
Exactly. And Batman has the resources to adapt his behavior as much as possible to his nature. Bruce Wayne behaves completely differently (or has to).
Batman has to wear the mask (Bruce Wayne) to protect his identity to be able to do what he does.
One last sentence from me to that 😅:
(If I'm allowed 😁)
It's also very amazing how deeply rooted it is in our society. If the world knows who Satoshi Nakamoto really is, Bitcoin would never have evolved into what it is today ... I'm sure of that.
So ... A big thx to this masked man (or woman, or group) 💜!
The mask is the symbol and concept of batman. In theory, anyone could don the mask and be batman. But putting on the mask is not a sufficient condition to be batman.
To truly become the bat, the wearer needs the skill, time, money, and integrity of bruce wayne. You need both
to walk the talk…
Woah, this is true..
So you’re saying Batman is the mask, even though he believes it’s bruce Wayne, because no one other than bruce Wayne could do justice to the mask of batman like he can.
This shit is heavy.
I’m not speaking so much about the internal mind of bruce wayne, though that’s interesting to think about. In a lot of ways bruce is superhuman in his ability to do justice to the concept of batman.
I was more saying that by putting on the mask, bruce created a symbol. Just like the Guy Fawkes mask was a symbol in V for Vendetta. Ideas take on a life outside of meat space. “Ideas are bulletproof”.
But as #[3] pointed out, ideas are meaningless without humans and human action. In order to become batman, you need to unite the mask (the ideal of batman), with action and heroism
This question was lot deeper than I anticipated but I’m glad I asked it got so much insights into what it means to manifest an idea, and also on a side thread, how much we change our identity to fit in.
Batman is a very good expression of anonymity, not only what you can achieve with it in the outside world (as an idea) but also how much it can lend to express your actual identity.
Also, movies often portray a lone hero with larger than life qualities.
In real life, it is a team effort that stands on the shoulders of so many in the past who added their grain of sand to make today possible.
Perhaps the real hero is being able to come together for a common purpose.
Interesting take..
The real heroic act is to contribute..
Expand on what came before you.
